Actually I loved the sound...until it changed. There is definately a loose baffle in the muffler. It makes a funky "burbleling"noise for about a minute at startup, (cold), and then turns to a tinny rattle, (sounds like a loose shield), for the remainder of the time the car is running. I hear it mostly when backing into the garage. I did not install the cat pipes, only the muffler assy.
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