I knew it might benefit me to "seek some guidance" from those who know. Thanks bill.

I am sure this is something that one just has to "work through" I would have taken you up on the Starbucks offer but I already went out this morning for one and took the completely unnecessary route with the winding up and down S curve on the way. But with no passenger there's no one or nothing to hold the cup except me.

I have simply adapted with a better coffee tumbler :dance: