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wonder why raby even sells the thing if he says that as soon as metal shows up motor is toast.
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We don't sell them.. I did develop it, though.
That said, the device is valuable in the fact that it gives a symptom to an otherwise symptomless condition. Thats all it does, and it does it well.
The camp that sees the biggest benefit from the Guardian is the lesser valued cars that people have a hard time justifying costs of a retrofit. The other campy hat uses the Guardian are the 06-08 owners.
We are now employing the system in 09 and later engines to warn against timing chain failures.
Keep in mind that core engines are not cheap and are hard to find, if nothing else the Guardian saves the core of the engine, and can even save the IMS assembly, which saves 1,100.00 in replacement costs if a bearing does fail. When the IMSB fails, its takes the shaft (and lots of other things) out with it.
If the IMSG alarm sounds and an engine is saved, it may have debris that can be removed after a repair (or IMSR) with extensive cleaning and flush oil services. Things like a spin on filter adaptor (no bypass), filter mag, magnetic crain plug and etc with sump cleaning and short service intervals can save an engine.
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More insidiously, there are reports of people getting a Guardian alarm and then just removing the Guardian and selling the car to an unsuspecting buyer.
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Yes, and I HATE this.. People are employing the system and using it for a trade in alarm. I recently busted a Rennlist member selling his car on Ebay, and then a few weeks later he sold his IMSG system (used) on Ebay, and oddly enough 2 months later the person who bought his car ended up on my failure call log. I busted him dead in his tracks with his own photos and his invoice for the system and ebay ads.
Its a cruel world out here, fellas... The owner of this car just bought it 4 days before it failed. It just came in yesterday, if anyone wants to attend the open house tomorrow evening for the Cayman Invasion they can see it first hand. Someone knew this was happening when they sold the car, but there was no Guardian installed.
