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And yes dont knock the porsche tip that much, manual is better, but the auto is nowhere near as bad as many make it out to be, also many of these have never driven with one. I have gotten to know the shift points on mine so well that i can shift perfectly with just my right foot and nothing else still in auto mode. You get used to the degree of angle that the tip calculates for up shifts and down shifts, it is actually fairly exhilarating. Despite this though, when in manual mode the tiptronic is really really impressive for its age, the shifting is quick, about as good as Mercedes paddles from a year or two back. Many many journalist complain about how terribly slow semi autos are on cars of this age, pleauging everything from the smart roadster to Maserati. Many companies are just recently surpassing porsches outdated tiptronic while the pdk simply blows the doors off of most any transmission system out their. It is very nice in traffic to own a tip, and if i had to have an auto i must say the porsche tip is a very very good one.
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