Originally Posted by bhduxbury

the key -- let the dealer know in no uncertain terms that this model is lacking options you want and has many options you don't want and don't need "after doing some research" -- make up a list of both what you want and don't want (out of whole cloth -- i.e. lie where applicable; he would lie about the benefits (exaggerate) to make the sale at his price, imho) -- let the dealer know you don't REALLY want this car -- but will "settle" for it at the right price -- then dispassionately and relentlessly aim for the prices the others have thoughtfully listed above -- if you are seen as a motivated buyer you won't get them -- save any and all outward displays of lust until after you sign -- and be prepared to walk away; the first step out the door might get you that price -- good luck! you will love this car in the end!