[donv]

I use the ramps - I like the security and the free height to work in. Had to make some "lead-in" boards to get the car to clear the ramps and not rub - 2x10 sections about 1.5 feet long, with a couple of lag bolts on each that fit into the tread holes on the ramps to ensure they stay in place while I back the car onto the ramps. I've had no issue draining the pan completely with this set up.