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eslai · 08-22-2005, 04:33 PM

Update: I took the car to the dealership today. The tech tells me that he thinks that the operating sleeve just isn't holding.

FYI, he's talking about the ring gear that slides back and forth between two gears to actually engage either one of them. On the porsche there's an operating sleeve between first and second that slides back and forth. It isn't holding on second is what he thinks.

But, no parts are available for the 987 tranny yet. I need a new tranny.

Here's the kicker though. They pulled some codes from my car. In the 986 there were apparently two levels of warnings. One if you were just bouncing off the rev limiter and another level if you over-revved the engine by downshifting wrong.

My service advisor told me that the latter of those two codes puts you somewhat at the mercy of Porsche, as far as warranty claims go.

The 987 has FIVE levels of these flags (i have no idea what the real terminology is) and my service advisor doesn't know how to read them. He says that i have warnings in the first three ranges.

Well, I know I've never over-revved the engine. I've bounced off the rev-limiter in first, naturally--it's a really short gear, but I've never over-revved. The closest I've come to that are a couple of times when i shifted into the wrong gear and started to let out the clutch, heard the motor leap but put the clutch back in before it ever got near redline.

I'll be very disappointed if they decide not to warrant this transmission based on any of these codes. My service advisor is going to call his rep tomorrow and find out what's up. I've had plenty of other cars where I've treated the transmission either the same or worse (back in my learner's permit days

) and I've never had any problems. I really hope they don't end up completely eroding my belief in Porsche durability and warranty coverage. My Mitsubishi drivetrain has proven more reliable than my Porsche--that's plain embarrassing!

I really don't see how they would reasonably deny me though. I have a lot of faith that it won't come to that.

And the 987 interior does bring the car more inline with what other luxury brands are doing with their interiors. I don't see how this could diminish the driving experience of the car at all, or be a bad thing for sales and overall driver satisfaction. All subjective of course, and I do also appreciate the passion that most of you have. We all have our own biases on all of this though and honestly, i would expect nothing less than for most of us to prefer what we have.

08-22-2005, 04:33 PM	#27
eslai Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,052	Update: I took the car to the dealership today. The tech tells me that he thinks that the operating sleeve just isn't holding. FYI, he's talking about the ring gear that slides back and forth between two gears to actually engage either one of them. On the porsche there's an operating sleeve between first and second that slides back and forth. It isn't holding on second is what he thinks. But, no parts are available for the 987 tranny yet. I need a new tranny. Here's the kicker though. They pulled some codes from my car. In the 986 there were apparently two levels of warnings. One if you were just bouncing off the rev limiter and another level if you over-revved the engine by downshifting wrong. My service advisor told me that the latter of those two codes puts you somewhat at the mercy of Porsche, as far as warranty claims go. The 987 has FIVE levels of these flags (i have no idea what the real terminology is) and my service advisor doesn't know how to read them. He says that i have warnings in the first three ranges. Well, I know I've never over-revved the engine. I've bounced off the rev-limiter in first, naturally--it's a really short gear, but I've never over-revved. The closest I've come to that are a couple of times when i shifted into the wrong gear and started to let out the clutch, heard the motor leap but put the clutch back in before it ever got near redline. I'll be very disappointed if they decide not to warrant this transmission based on any of these codes. My service advisor is going to call his rep tomorrow and find out what's up. I've had plenty of other cars where I've treated the transmission either the same or worse (back in my learner's permit days ) and I've never had any problems. I really hope they don't end up completely eroding my belief in Porsche durability and warranty coverage. My Mitsubishi drivetrain has proven more reliable than my Porsche--that's plain embarrassing! I really don't see how they would reasonably deny me though. I have a lot of faith that it won't come to that. And the 987 interior does bring the car more inline with what other luxury brands are doing with their interiors. I don't see how this could diminish the driving experience of the car at all, or be a bad thing for sales and overall driver satisfaction. All subjective of course, and I do also appreciate the passion that most of you have. We all have our own biases on all of this though and honestly, i would expect nothing less than for most of us to prefer what we have.