[jmatta]

I have a different situation with the Fabspeed pipes, as far as sound is concerned. I installed a "PSE type" muffler, modified by Oettle Autodienst on my '02 S. I was pleased with the sound, but it still didn't have the bark or tone I wanted. I happened across a pair of slightly used Fabspeed secondary pipes and purchased them quite inexpensively. After installing, the sound of my exhaust was night and day; quite raspy and GT3 like on throttle, but very well demeanored cruising. And as the others stated, I removed a considerable amount of weight. The pipes were definitely worth the expense and time to install.