i was being diplomatic when i said WORTHY of your porsche, i really don't give a ratz a$$ if something has a designer name or not, but i mearly sugar coated my question to get as much feedback from as many members as i could, it has been known for SOME porsche owners to buy the car for the NAME and not for the kick you get out of it, now that does'nt include any of us!!!..!?!...lol nope i'm just looking for well proven products for my car....ok ok and a bit of style