[steve00s]

I have driven the 5-speed and tiptronic 2.7's and I own the S. While both cars are fantastic in their own right, I disagree that the 6-speed S is junk as rammed down my throat by S in S. No wonder you have been banned on other boards. Most people state an opinion, hear others, agree, disagree, and then move on. You seem to be on some kind of crusade. Lighten up.