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MNBoxster · 09-04-2007, 02:49 PM

Hi,

Well, the spectral analysis doesn't reveal the presence of any of the compounds which make-up Water Wetter - check it out yourself at RedLine's MSDS publication: http://www.redlineoil.com/msds/17.pdf There is no mention of any Potassium (Kalium) in RedLine's publication for instance.

The Lab's conclusion also mentions that the gel is consistent with a Long-Life Coolant - exactly what the Boxster uses. The OEM coolant is the equivalent of Artego Coolant in europe and Texaco / Havoline Dex-Cool here in the US.

If you review Havoline's Dex-Cool MSDS - http://www.havoline.com/images/products/pdfs/anti_exlife.pdf , you'll see that it contains Potassium 2-ethylhexanoate in a fairly abundant quantity, 2nd in abundance along with diethylene glycol.

Spectral analysis is a very sound testing method, but the conclusions drawn from it are where there is room for error.

The analysis is not consistent with the chemical make-up of Water Wetter, nor does the Lab specifically identify the sample as being Water Wetter - only a Coolant Booster. There may be other Coolant Boosters (more like conditioners which Water Wetter really isn't) which have a chemical make-up consistent with the sample, I don't know. The information given to us and upon which I made my initial and subsequent research and replies was Water Wetter.

But, the results are consistent with the make-up of Long Term coolant. We already know that Water Wetter was added to the Fuel system either mistakenly (not knowing the proper fill point) or absent-mindedly. What is the possibility that the same was done with Coolant, perhaps even with no cognitive knowledge or memory of it?

I make no prediction one way or the other, except to say that the analysis does not rule out, and may actually seem to favor this as a possibility.

The reported Time Lag is also nagging at me because I cannot believe that an issue such as this would manifest itself so long after the supposed cause was introduced (9 mos.), though without further research, I must allow the possibility to remain open that it well could...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

09-04-2007, 02:49 PM	#48
MNBoxster Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota, USA Posts: 3,308	Hi, Well, the spectral analysis doesn't reveal the presence of any of the compounds which make-up Water Wetter - check it out yourself at RedLine's MSDS publication: http://www.redlineoil.com/msds/17.pdf There is no mention of any Potassium (Kalium) in RedLine's publication for instance. The Lab's conclusion also mentions that the gel is consistent with a Long-Life Coolant - exactly what the Boxster uses. The OEM coolant is the equivalent of Artego Coolant in europe and Texaco / Havoline Dex-Cool here in the US. If you review Havoline's Dex-Cool MSDS - http://www.havoline.com/images/products/pdfs/anti_exlife.pdf , you'll see that it contains Potassium 2-ethylhexanoate in a fairly abundant quantity, 2nd in abundance along with diethylene glycol. Spectral analysis is a very sound testing method, but the conclusions drawn from it are where there is room for error. The analysis is not consistent with the chemical make-up of Water Wetter, nor does the Lab specifically identify the sample as being Water Wetter - only a Coolant Booster. There may be other Coolant Boosters (more like conditioners which Water Wetter really isn't) which have a chemical make-up consistent with the sample, I don't know. The information given to us and upon which I made my initial and subsequent research and replies was Water Wetter. But, the results are consistent with the make-up of Long Term coolant. We already know that Water Wetter was added to the Fuel system either mistakenly (not knowing the proper fill point) or absent-mindedly. What is the possibility that the same was done with Coolant, perhaps even with no cognitive knowledge or memory of it? I make no prediction one way or the other, except to say that the analysis does not rule out, and may actually seem to favor this as a possibility. The reported Time Lag is also nagging at me because I cannot believe that an issue such as this would manifest itself so long after the supposed cause was introduced (9 mos.), though without further research, I must allow the possibility to remain open that it well could... Happy Motoring!... Jim'99 Last edited by MNBoxster; 09-04-2007 at 02:52 PM.