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Old 08-31-2007, 10:14 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by boxsterz
I disagree. We're trying to determine mainly: IF WW can turn to jelly under typical conditons and if WW will flow through or get trapped in a particulate filter...If it is obverved to gel in gas, bang, we're done. We have our answer. It it does not, it can always be argued there were contributing factors such as unaccounted for substances as you may imply, but that's not the meat of the issue.
Hi,

Clearly you have a gross misunderstanding of chemical and model analysis.

You want to find a simple way to duplicate a very complex process. You have left out a time parameter - how long do we leave it in the gas to decide whether or not it will gel? You have totally ignored any of the myriad of components of the gas to see if they had an interaction - is the chemical make-up of US gas the same as it is in Japan? I can tell you that it is not. You make no provision for whatever effect, if any. agitation may have on the problem - car car was driven and the whole thing agitated in the process. It is well known that certain reactions require agitation for them to take place. You now totally discard the addition of a Fuel additive. Could this be the cause? What happens if the Fuel additive ages and was it aged? What temperature do we conduct this experiment at? Temperature is fundamental to how many compounds breakdown and on how chemical reactions take place, if at all. And on and on...

You wanna simply say "there you go, it gels, case closed" when in fact it may not gel under the conditions actually experienced by the lister (it would be interesting to see how you'd react if it did not gel - what would be your next Windmill? Or can't you ever see that being a possibility?). You totally ignore the very well known properties of the chemicals involved, the 2 alcohols do mix with gasoline and did burn in engine combustion, as did the Sodium Molybdate. Only the polymer Tolyltriazole could be suspect. And if so, would the miniscule amount be sufficient to do what was found? Why only the #3 injector? Is this substance also found upstream of the Filter? In the Tank?

It's Voo Doo science you're proposing based only upon an overriding self-admitted belief (which is wholly different than a proper hypothesis). If that feeds your brain, well, that's a whole other issue...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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