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Qingdao 01-26-2024 07:02 PM

Poor man's 787B
 
Oh boy, I got another 986. :D :D

I sold my RX7 and now I wanna have another rotary car. So why not 986 rotary car??? AND why not peripheral port rotary 986 car? AND WHY not quazi tube chassis peripheral port rotary 986 car?!!

Here I go. Doing things I shouldn't do. LOL




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Oh and I wanna skin it with 914 panels... This is going to be one of the cars on the road. LOL

BruceH 01-27-2024 03:50 PM

Not quite sure what to say except you have more vision than me :eek: Have fun and good luck :cheers:

78F350 01-27-2024 04:45 PM

Check out this project:
https://live.staticflickr.com/8638/1...5805a773_c.jpg0259 by Roger Grenon, on Flickr

Full album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5L6WU1

Qingdao 01-28-2024 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78F350 (Post 658756)

Thats a super nice build, but it doesn't have any headlights. I'm going more for a raggedy mad maxish kinda thing. I don't know whether or not I'm painting the 914 panels. and they will be bolted to the tubes not like permanently affixed.


The more I look at it; I don't think I'm gonna chop too much off the front. I mean its all pretty relevant up there, not much to hack off. I am going with a center radiator and stuff, but for the most part that body stuff aint gonna change.

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It wants the 914 parts :D

Qingdao 01-31-2024 07:50 PM

I found rust!!!! I'm not concerned though. I mean.... tube chassis right??


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Look at all the leg room!!!! :D :D :D







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986tate 02-02-2024 07:04 PM

Glad you are back!
Rotary sounds cool, not literally, ha! Not too sure about the 914 panels

Qingdao 02-06-2024 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 986tate (Post 659103)
Glad you are back!
Rotary sounds cool, not literally, ha! Not too sure about the 914 panels

Thanks, I never quite left... just kinda lurked for a while. LOL




So K.E.P. makes adaptors for Porsche transaxles. I used a K.E.P. adaptor in my silver boxster. Great product, no issues with it. BUT they don't want to make an adaptor for this project of mine.

I'm left with a few options.

1. use a 914 transmission with an adaptor plate.
-4 speed trans = no good for peaky rotary power band
-cable clutch
-weird custom cv axles
2. use a 930 or G50 transmission.
-I don't want to spend 5 times on the transmission than the rest of the entire build.
3. Make my own adaptor
-I don't think I need to say why this is a bad idea
4. BEG AND PLEAD on my hands and knees for K.E.P. to make a one off adaptor for me.


Honestly I think I'm gonna go with option 4 tomorrow. If that fails I'm gonna hunt down a VW bug adaptor and take it to a machinist friend of mine. He might be able to make something work. Worst case scenario I go with option 1.

ducker18 02-08-2024 03:01 AM

I'm working on a project, I'll upload some pictures soon.

Qingdao 02-10-2024 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducker18 (Post 659389)
I'm working on a project, I'll upload some pictures soon.

Rotary or just a tube chassis?

This thing I'm doing is coming along nicely. I'm holding off on setting the suspension height till I finish cutting the body off, but I'm chomping at the bit and ready to weld.


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Qingdao 02-21-2024 03:10 PM

Tubes....


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Pulled the H6 out last weekend, I forgot how heavy M96 engines are. Took some life out of me dragging it around to get the car out of the bay so I could use the chainfall to hoist the engine in the back of my truck.



If anybody wants a part I'm throwing away just let me know. Its all going to the dump (aka its free fifty) except for a couple of things I'm keeping for myself.

Qingdao 03-06-2024 07:45 PM

So, I am pecking away at this. The front framing is proving to be a challenge. Just finding places to weld to is kinda difficult.

The rear is almost done. I want to set the ride hieght before I add in the last of the upright supports. I went too low (or at least I think I did); I'll know for sure when I get the front done and I can put some simulated weight in it.

I did get my PP. Look at my PP. Its a nice PP, but it needs some scrubbing.... PP hehe. :D

Ok no more Peripheral Port jokes. LOL






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Qingdao 03-31-2024 07:34 PM

I can't find anyone to make an adaptor plate, so I gave it a go.

The 986 flywheel has a piolet bearing inside it, so all I need is a machine shop to make a hubcentric adapter from the 13B to the 986 flywheel. Thrust and centering will be changed when I have that piece machined out, but for now this plate is "eyeballed" close enough so I can make motor mounts and an exhaust/intake/coolant pipe routing.

Here are some shrunken pics of the insanity.... :D

And I finished adjusting the rear ride height and welded in the last of the rear... I did the front too, but it looks all the same. ;)



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78F350 04-07-2024 09:31 AM

I saw this and thought of your build: English Translation- https://www-auto--motor--und--sport-de.translate.goog/tuning/porsche-914-umbau-boxster-986-rendering-design-entwurf/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true
Original German: https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/tuning/porsche-914-umbau-boxster-986-rendering-design-entwurf/

914 design elements on a 986 chassis. Sadly not rotary, but maybe electric.

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Qingdao 08-06-2024 01:50 PM

Little update...



https://youtu.be/gBlrWvkP55Q

JBauer 08-15-2024 09:43 AM

Wow very nice!

Qingdao 09-10-2024 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBauer (Post 662367)
Wow very nice!

Thanks, A buddy of mine at work solved my starter motor problem. I'm going to mount the starter to the front of the engine and run the bendix down between the intake and the exhaust to the flywheel. A carrier bearing will be mounted to the engine right before the bendix hits the flywheel.


Here is the latest. This is the actual plates that mate the engine/trans. Cool thing is if this works I can make an adaptor to put any engine to the boxter trans.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI2zRw5ltFw

Smallblock454 09-12-2024 09:47 PM

Not so shure about the chassis construction on the front and rear strut mountings.

Like the rotary engine idea. Especially when you consider to replace a bad engine design with a much worser engine design. :D

Qingdao 09-13-2024 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smallblock454 (Post 662944)
Not so shure about the chassis construction on the front and rear strut mountings.

Like the rotary engine idea. Especially when you consider to replace a bad engine design with a much worser engine design. :D

Only way to make it worse than rotary is to get a Trabant engine. :D

Homeoboxter 10-17-2024 12:40 PM

Those wankels are pretty compact, did you think of throwing two in there instead of just one?

Qingdao 01-01-2025 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeoboxter (Post 663686)
Those wankels are pretty compact, did you think of throwing two in there instead of just one?

LOL. I wish. Na, this is pushing the limits of my ability to break things as is. :D

Haven't updated here in a while... most of my updates happen on RX7club.com. But here is more or less where it stands. I'm just hurring to make it into a "runner" by April. (there is a big rotary event in April in the mountains).



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This is sneaking the bendix past the intak/exhaust


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Mounting the starter to the front.



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Intake, not much else going on here.





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Side mounted alternator. Couldn't put it on the top like the factory cause of the starter and the cooling system.


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and just an exhaust, nothing special.


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