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chpanther69 08-14-2007 02:18 PM

rebuilding my 99 986
 
i just got back my 99 986 from a theft recovery.. the thief wrecked it pretty bad on the front drivers side. im in the process of rebuilding it. anyone want me to post up pics of my progress during the restoration?

blinkwatt 08-14-2007 02:36 PM

That would be awesome if you could take pics. Why would you have to repair the car yourself though,isn't your insurance taking care of it?

chpanther69 08-14-2007 02:43 PM

yea they would have.. but at the time i had a 4 day lapse in coverage. and wouldn't you know it gets stolen during those 4 days. yay for me. but yea back to the garage for me, i will take some pics and get them posted up in a little bit.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...9/DSC00209.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...9/DSC00208.jpg

chpanther69 08-14-2007 06:13 PM

new pics
 
some pics after i finally got the left fender off, and after i sanded and bondo'd the front bumper, and hood.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...9/DSC00215.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...9/DSC00216.jpg

blkboxster 08-14-2007 06:17 PM

Wow,i wouldn't bother working on that

chpanther69 08-14-2007 06:26 PM

yea
 
its just what i do man. when im not at work im workin on my cars or bikes. keeps me busy

986speedster 08-14-2007 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blkboxster
Wow,i wouldn't bother working on that


Maybe some people are not as fortunate as you to own a stable of vehicles, and he is looking foward to working on his car.

blkboxster 08-14-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chpanther69
its just what i do man. when im not at work im workin on my cars or bikes. keeps me busy

Good luck on it bro. :cheers:

cant wait to see the end result

blinkwatt 08-14-2007 06:43 PM

Damn man,good luck with that!

Do you have experience in body shop work?

chpanther69 08-14-2007 06:47 PM

yea man ive been workin on cars and bikes for last 4 years, im only 20

blkboxster 08-14-2007 06:52 PM

Great!! another young forum member
:cheers:

djomlas 08-14-2007 08:09 PM

ouch man,
BUT, while youre at it, why dont you fab up some kind of a lip spoiler of sort, instead of just stock bumper...or something along those lines

chpanther69 08-14-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by djomlas
ouch man,
BUT, while youre at it, why dont you fab up some kind of a lip spoiler of sort, instead of just stock bumper...or something along those lines

well give me some ideas. i can fabricate anything. so give me some ideas. i was even thinkin of cutting the bumper and making it look completely different.

nola911 08-14-2007 09:10 PM

When you finish this project, your gonna have the biggest grin everytime you look at the car. With a project this size, you might be able to get some free donor parts from other members. Old headlights, side markers, stock springs and shocks, bumpers, ect. are all over this site.

Have you sourced body panels yet? There are a few liquidators that strip porsche cars.

chpanther69 08-14-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by maxferran
When you finish this project, your gonna have the biggest grin everytime you look at the car. With a project this size, you might be able to get some free donor parts from other members. Old headlights, side markers, stock springs and shocks, bumpers, ect. are all over this site.

Have you sourced body panels yet? There are a few liquidators that strip porsche cars.

yea man that would be awesome if some guys could spare some parts for free or even a little cash. i actually got a front bumper from THENAVARO, hes a good guy. and yea ive looked for some fenders but not many people have them and if they do they want like 400 for them. not to mention how expensive the radiator and a/c condensor are.

blinkwatt 08-14-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chpanther69
yea man that would be awesome if some guys could spare some parts for free or even a little cash. i actually got a front bumper from THENAVARO, hes a good guy. and yea ive looked for some fenders but not many people have them and if they do they want like 400 for them. not to mention how expensive the radiator and a/c condensor are.

You may want to give www.****************************************************.com an email to check on the price of new primed fenders.

Frodo 08-15-2007 04:59 AM

How'd it get stolen? Don't know much about it, but I thought auto theft was kind of a difficult proposition with Porsches and their specialized keys. Tell us you didn't leave the key in the ignition!

chpanther69 08-15-2007 10:20 AM

nah i didnt leave the key in the ignition. i was going to sell it to this kid so i let him take it for a test drive. and well he never came back.

boxsterz 08-15-2007 10:35 AM

There's nothing like doing your own work. It would fetch more money AND get done faster if you kept it stock. Stay away from "while I'm at it..." , it will bog you down on a project this size (ask me how I know).


Just get'er done and post plenty of pics, it'll help you sell it when time comes too, as the buyer can see damage wasn't that bad.

chpanther69 08-15-2007 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxsterz
There's nothing like doing your own work. It would fetch more money AND get done faster if you kept it stock. Stay away from "while I'm at it..." , it will bog you down on a project this size (ask me how I know).


Just get'er done and post plenty of pics, it'll help you sell it when time comes too, as the buyer can see damage wasn't that bad.

haha yea deffinitly going to keep it stock for this time around so i can get it done as quick as possible. anyone know how to get the front end straight? look at the first pic i posted and you'll see what im talking about

blinkwatt 08-15-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chpanther69
nah i didnt leave the key in the ignition. i was going to sell it to this kid so i let him take it for a test drive. and well he never came back.

How old was this 'kid' you let test drive your Boxster?

chpanther69 08-15-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by blinkwatt
How old was this 'kid' you let test drive your Boxster?

he was 24. i later found out that he was actually a drug dealer. i guess thats what you get for a friend "knowing" someone whos a "good" guy. cops were worthless might i add. i knew the kids full name and where he lived and they wouldnt do anything about it. they said they had to investigate further.

boxsterz 08-15-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chpanther69
... anyone know how to get the front end straight? look at the first pic i posted and you'll see what im talking about



Having the "frame" straight will set the foundation for all your future body work. Get it down to a frame shop and have it straightened, you can't do that type of work yourself without specialized heavy equipment. Otherwise the car will handle funny or be unsafe, fenders won't hang straight, and make for hellish bodywork.

chpanther69 08-15-2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxsterz
Having the "frame" straight will set the foundation for all your future body work. Get it down to a frame shop and have it straightened, you can't do that type of work yourself without specialized heavy equipment. Otherwise the car will handle funny or be unsafe, fenders won't hang straight, and make for hellish bodywork.

yea that sounds good, i was actually looking into that yesterday. my old high school has a body shop class, and they actually have a frame straightener. so i guess i will have to wait until school starts back up to get that part done. unless someone on here knows of a place that will do it for like 300 bucks.

boxsterz 08-15-2007 11:16 AM

so the "kid" is older than you by 4 years? :D

chpanther69 08-15-2007 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxsterz
so the "kid" is older than you by 4 years? :D

yea, i call him a kid because hes an immature punk. lol

racer_d 08-15-2007 11:33 AM

So.. what kind of "title" does the car have after an accident like this? If insurance would have "covered" it, would they have totaled it out?

I know some states have pretty strict guidelines when a "salvage" title car is rebuilt. Not sure if they would apply in your situation though. Also, if the car stays in your hands, does a place like "carfax" ever learn of the rebuilding?

Good luck on your project!

chpanther69 08-15-2007 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer_d
So.. what kind of "title" does the car have after an accident like this? If insurance would have "covered" it, would they have totaled it out?

I know some states have pretty strict guidelines when a "salvage" title car is rebuilt. Not sure if they would apply in your situation though. Also, if the car stays in your hands, does a place like "carfax" ever learn of the rebuilding?

Good luck on your project!

the car has a clean title, didnt have insurance when the wreck occurred. and since it is staying in my hand i suppose carfax would never know. so pretty much down the road if i fix it right i can sell it as never wrecked. altho i would never do that because karma's a ********************, thats why im taking all these pictures, so i can show a future potential buyer the damage before and how it was fixed.

CJ_Boxster 08-15-2007 01:33 PM

You going to have a hell of a time convincing someone it wasnt in a wreck once they open the trunk lid and see the odd curve around the trunk seal since it not the original shape

chpanther69 08-15-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ_Boxster
You going to have a hell of a time convincing someone it wasnt in a wreck once they open the trunk lid and see the odd curve around the trunk seal since it not the original shape

of course im going to tell them its been in a wreck, im not an ****************************. lol. well not completely anyways. but yea anybody have any spare parts they are wanting to get rid of?

Grizzly 08-15-2007 08:49 PM

This thread reminds me of one of my all time favorite movies; Fast Times at Ridgemont High...

Spicoli: People on 'ludes should not drive.

Jefferson's Brother: My brother's gonna kill us! He's gonna kill us! He's gonna kill you and he's gonna kill me! He's gonna kill us!

Spicoli: Hey man, just be glad I had fast reflexes!

Jefferson's Brother: My brother's gonna ****************!

Spicoli: Make up your mind, dude, is he gonna **************** or is he gonna kill us?

Jefferson's Brother: First he's gonna ****************, then he's gonna kill us!

Spicoli: Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman. He's got the ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

Jefferson's Brother: You can't fix this car Spicoli!

Spicoli: I can fix it.

http://www.hadleysplace.com/images/header17full.jpg

boxsterz 08-15-2007 09:45 PM

Good movie. The pizza scene is what I recall most.

Spicoli: You dick!


lol

NickCats 08-16-2007 07:26 AM

Best quote ever :

Jeff Spicoli: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

:cool:

Nick

Brucelee 08-16-2007 07:27 AM

Good luck and thanks very much for posting the photos etc.

I would recommend that you find a frame EXPERT to do the frame work before you proceed.

Unibody cars are VERY TOUGH to get right, even for the best of them. You wouldn't want to complete the job and find out the car pulls to the left and there is nothing you can do about it.

This might be money well spent.

Thanks!

:cheers:

chpanther69 08-16-2007 12:48 PM

yea im taking it monday to a place call dfw frame. we will see how much this is gona cost me.. anybody know how much it usually costs?

mikefocke 08-16-2007 01:10 PM

An absolute waste of time ....
 
IMNSHO

to try, as one not doing this every day, to try and repair it. I had a '99 with similar damage (2 years ago so it was worth a lot more than yours is now, 22k miles and it was absolutely pristine before I wrecked it) and the body shop stopped counting at $26k, lots more than a 99 was worth then and loads more than they are worth now.

I thought, after the accident, that $5-6k would fix it up. But the frame damage made that figure start climbing...and up and up it went the more they investigated.

So I'd ask why they totaled it (now it gets a salvage title even if repaired correctly) and if they put it on a frame machine. If they did, stop and sell it for parts. If they didn't, then perhaps it is worth while to have someone who has the required Porsche "jigs" to measure it and give you an estimate of what they can do to repair/straighten the frame. This is not a job for amateurs. Then figure out, once you have paid to straighten the frame, how much more you'd have to spend before it would make sense just to buy another example of the '99s.

Good luck.

chpanther69 08-16-2007 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefocke
IMNSHO

to try, as one not doing this every day, to try and repair it. I had a '99 with similar damage (2 years ago so it was worth a lot more than yours is now, 22k miles and it was absolutely pristine before I wrecked it) and the body shop stopped counting at $26k, lots more than a 99 was worth then and loads more than they are worth now.

I thought, after the accident, that $5-6k would fix it up. But the frame damage made that figure start climbing...and up and up it went the more they investigated.

So I'd ask why they totaled it (now it gets a salvage title even if repaired correctly) and if they put it on a frame machine. If they did, stop and sell it for parts. If they didn't, then perhaps it is worth while to have someone who has the required Porsche "jigs" to measure it and give you an estimate of what they can do to repair/straighten the frame. This is not a job for amateurs. Then figure out, once you have paid to straighten the frame, how much more you'd have to spend before it would make sense just to buy another example of the '99s.

Good luck.

maybe its because i havnt slept in two days, but that made almost no sense to me what so ever. lol i think your trying to say that its a waste of my time and money to try and fix it...?

racer_d 08-16-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chpanther69
maybe its because i havnt slept in two days, but that made almost no sense to me what so ever. lol i think your trying to say that its a waste of my time and money to try and fix it...?

While it wasn't easy to read it, the main question is "what will it cost for a pro to straighten the "frame" since only at that point should you put things back on it..."

Only after the "pro" estimate can you have a true idea of what your out of pocket expense may be.

It could be cheaper, in the long run, to find another used '99 then it is to fix your car.

chpanther69 08-16-2007 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer_d
While it wasn't easy to read it, the main question is "what will it cost for a pro to straighten the "frame" since only at that point should you put things back on it..."

Only after the "pro" estimate can you have a true idea of what your out of pocket expense may be.

It could be cheaper, in the long run, to find another used '99 then it is to fix your car.


gotchya, thanks man. and yea i am taking up to a place on monday to get an estimate. im hoping its not too much tho. but the good news is that i got a letter yesterday saying they found and arrested the guy who stole my car. so yay for that.

racer_d 08-16-2007 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chpanther69
gotchya, thanks man. and yea i am taking up to a place on monday to get an estimate. im hoping its not too much tho. but the good news is that i got a letter yesterday saying they found and arrested the guy who stole my car. so yay for that.

If they found the guy.. and can prove he did it, does your possession of the car (which is in fact "evidence") and the work you have already done (in essence, "tainted evidence") hurt your ability to go after him? (not that he necessarily has the money to pay you for damages caused (per se))


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