02-22-2007, 07:57 AM
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I wonder if the shape of the snorkle tube being a long smooth part leading up to the intake had some type of airflow/aerodynamics pupose. Therefore it would have been better to test it on the dyno with a fan blowing on the intake vent to simulate the car moving forward, since it was sitting still when you did the before and after test. Just a thought to consider for future testing.
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02-22-2007, 08:32 AM
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Thanks man!
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02-22-2007, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
I wonder if the shape of the snorkle tube being a long smooth part leading up to the intake had some type of airflow/aerodynamics pupose. Therefore it would have been better to test it on the dyno with a fan blowing on the intake vent to simulate the car moving forward, since it was sitting still when you did the before and after test. Just a thought to consider for future testing. 
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I did use a fan in 2 areas: the front for the heat exhanger/radiator, and the rear driver's side vent, but only to provide cool air. A single cylinder in our P-car engines demands air at 2000RPMs that none of my industrial grade fans can generate. As a matter of fact, a NACA duct (superior to our Porsche side vents) is only efficient as a ram at above 200mph.
2 weeks ago i performed a test using a fully radiused intake pipe on single cylinder induction tubes, and gained 12whp on a 320whp engine. Infusing such technology in our induction may prove benefitial, but the factory ram tube, incorporated with the "deflection cup" is a restriction, and hence, the power gains seen in the upper RPM range.
Thanks for the suggestion...great minds think alike!
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02-22-2007, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bisimoto
I did use a fan in 2 areas: the front for the heat exhanger/radiator, and the rear driver's side vent, but only to provide cool air. A single cylinder in our P-car engines demands air at 2000RPMs that none of my industrial grade fans can generate. As a matter of fact, a NACA duct (superior to our Porsche side vents) is only efficient as a ram at above 200mph.
2 weeks ago i performed a test using a fully radiused intake pipe on single cylinder induction tubes, and gained 12whp on a 320whp engine. Infusing such technology in our induction may prove benefitial, but the factory ram tube, incorporated with the "deflection cup" is a restriction, and hence, the power gains seen in the upper RPM range.
Thanks for the suggestion...great minds think alike!
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Wow! Thant's amazing. Thanks for all the info. Sounds like you know what your doing for sure. Please keep us posted with any more dyno test you do with other mods.
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02-22-2007, 09:33 AM
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Ram air vent ducts???
So what is your opinion of these "Ram" air vent ducts? I've seen 2 designs and was thinking of buying them before I de-snorkle my car. Any thoughts as to if these would realy work/help any more?
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02-22-2007, 09:59 AM
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This is much appreciated Bisimoto! I hope you can get us a few mod dynos in the future as well.
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02-22-2007, 11:34 AM
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I am going to do this on the week end and remove both the restrictor plate and snorkel.
I'll report back w/ some test results.
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02-22-2007, 02:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bisimoto
I did use a fan in 2 areas: the front for the heat exhanger/radiator, and the rear driver's side vent, but only to provide cool air. A single cylinder in our P-car engines demands air at 2000RPMs that none of my industrial grade fans can generate. As a matter of fact, a NACA duct (superior to our Porsche side vents) is only efficient as a ram at above 200mph.
2 weeks ago i performed a test using a fully radiused intake pipe on single cylinder induction tubes, and gained 12whp on a 320whp engine. Infusing such technology in our induction may prove benefitial, but the factory ram tube, incorporated with the "deflection cup" is a restriction, and hence, the power gains seen in the upper RPM range.
Thanks for the suggestion...great minds think alike!
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Hi,
As someone who did their thesis on NACA duct research, I can tell you that you are somewhat correct so far as Ram Effect is concerned. In fact, a Ram Effect is not achieved within a NACA Duct until transonic speeds are reached (about 0.8 mach, or approx. 609 MPH).
But, this isn't why NACA ducts came into widspread use in motorsports. It was because of a reduction in drag over previously used protruding intakes. This reduction in drag, not achieving a Ram effect, is what made them desireable...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
Last edited by MNBoxster; 02-22-2007 at 05:33 PM.
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