03 Boxster S vs S2000

[John V]

[QUOTE=Adam]The boxster S is faster 0-60 and definately faster on a highway roll than a S2000. S2000's suck on highway rolls so I hear because they don't have any torque. S200's have similar weight and way less TQ and less Hp than a 03 boxster S.

Originally Posted by Moostang

what constitutes a hwy drag race?
QUOTE]
A highway race usually means 3 honks and hit the gas.

An S2000 weighs less than a Boxster S. A Boxster S weighs about 3,000 lbs. S2000s are down around 2800. Regardless, at freeway speeds weight doesn't matter nearly as much as it does from a standing start.

Discounting for the moment that "racing" on the freeway is idiotic, both cars will be pretty even unless one of the drivers chooses the wrong gear.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by John V

An S2000 weighs less than a Boxster S. A Boxster S weighs about 3,000 lbs. S2000s are down around 2800. Regardless, at freeway speeds weight doesn't matter nearly as much as it does from a standing start.

Discounting for the moment that "racing" on the freeway is idiotic, both cars will be pretty even unless one of the drivers chooses the wrong gear.

The published curb weight of a Boxster S is 2855lb. Any time you accelerate, weight (or more accurately, mass) matters. Even at highway speeds.

Agreed on the idiotic freeway antics.

[John V]

That published curb weight may be correct if the car has no fluids on board, but it's not correct otherwise. Numerous examples of 3.2L cars have been on the scales at SCCA autocrosses in stock trim and the lightest I've ever seen is just under 2900lbs - that's with no exhaust, 18lb wheels, light tires, and next to no gas.

At highway speeds weight matters, but a whole lot less than from a stop. Which is what I said.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by John V

That published curb weight may be correct if the car has no fluids on board, but it's not correct otherwise. Numerous examples of 3.2L cars have been on the scales at SCCA autocrosses in stock trim and the lightest I've ever seen is just under 2900lbs - that's with no exhaust, 18lb wheels, light tires, and next to no gas.

At highway speeds weight matters, but a whole lot less than from a stop. Which is what I said.

And what does the S2000 weigh wet?

Mass effects acceleration at any starting speed. The forces of drag are more of a percentage of the total force on the car, maybe that's what you mean?

[chgolatin2]

Hmmmmm, German car and a Jap car... I will take the German car any day versus a Jap, thats a no brainer. The German's invented Performance the Japs just started...

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by chgolatin2

Hmmmmm, German car and a Jap car... I will take the German car any day versus a Jap, thats a no brainer. The German's invented Performance the Japs just started...

But the Japanese invented quality and the Germans haven't started...

Performance vs. quality... hmmm... Yeah, I still have no desire to get rid of my Boxster.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sammy

But the Japanese invented quality and the Germans haven't started...

Performance vs. quality... hmmm... Yeah, I still have no desire to get rid of my Boxster.

Yeah, Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Porsche know nothing about quality

[John V]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

And what does the S2000 weigh wet?

Mass effects acceleration at any starting speed. The forces of drag are more of a percentage of the total force on the car, maybe that's what you mean?

We are saying the same thing but wording it differently. Mass is a lower percent contributor to the total force holding the car back from accelerating when traveling at freeway speeds.

S2000s are in the low 2800lb range with all fluids. About 150-200lbs lighter than a Boxster S.

S2000s are very quick and capable cars, on par with a Boxster S. In terms of quality, it's a toss-up. They are very well constructed cars and the quality of materials is very very good. The Boxster has some advantages like a much nicer top (insulated and lined - makes a big difference) and a much more refined driving experience. It's quieter and more luxurious. The penalty is weight.