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[Qingdao]

Originally Posted by Newsguy

Maybe just go all-out and put a KIA in it.
You're kidding, right? Honda is appliance, soulless appliance, the antithesis of Porsche.

The Honda engine is going in the next Porsche I get. That's like 100% certain. I'll drive the liquid cooled boxer till it meets its inevitable demise, but when it does, Honda.

Whats not to like about a K series?

They get beaten, smashed, drivin hard put away wet, never get serviced, (to be honest I think they use a timing belt but I've never even recommended one) and nobody ever changes the timing belt(?). And they still last over 200k on a regular.

Stock they almost make the same power... add some boost and they make more. Add a crank, head, and a big turbo and it will make TONS of power.

The engine weighs gobs less than the M96. It just does I don't have a second point here LOL


Kia? Like a 4G69? I gotta say I was apposed to the 4G engines, but after my wife got into the Eclipse and I had to rebuild her engine I'm impressed. I can say that they are very heavy engines; that's why all those guys just boost the living daylights out of them. That 4G block is THICK. I hear that Kia has done well with the platform since they bought it from Mitsubishi, but IDK if the quality has gone down. I'd be skeptical about putting a Kia block in my car. BUT if you want to I support it.


I'm just suggesting if you can't afford a tough built right engine like BYprodriver's then you do have options. You'll have more fun zipping down the road in a Chevy/Honda/Kia powered boxster than looking at an engineless one in your garage.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by Qingdao

I'm just suggesting if you can't afford a tough built right engine like BYprodriver's then you do have options. You'll have more fun zipping down the road in a Chevy/Honda/Kia powered boxster than looking at an engineless one in your garage.

THAT is some serious words of Wisdom right there.

AMEN to that.

[flmont]

So..No Subaru engines fit a boxster..??

[MaxD]

Originally Posted by flmont

So..No Subaru engines fit a boxster..??

That's been done

Subaru powered Porsche Boxster – Build Threads

Kent is a master fabricator. I have many of his Spec Boxster parts on my car.

[Newsguy]

I'm just suggesting if you can't afford a tough built right engine like BYprodriver's then you do have options. You'll have more fun zipping down the road in a Chevy/Honda/Kia powered boxster than looking at an engineless one in your garage.[/QUOTE]

It's not a matter of affording, it's a matter of philosophy.
I like Japanese motorcycles, but hate their cars.
I'm not polluting a Porsche with one of those boring things. I'd put a MB in there first. In fact, the 1.8T VW is a far better option, and will bolt to the gearbox, so that's a real possibility at some point.

[Qingdao]

Originally Posted by Newsguy

It's not a matter of affording, it's a matter of philosophy.
I like Japanese motorcycles, but hate their cars.
I'm not polluting a Porsche with one of those boring things. I'd put a MB in there first. In fact, the 1.8T VW is a far better option, and will bolt to the gearbox, so that's a real possibility at some point.

hehe, I'm not gonna lie, also not to drag this topic further away from its origins, but when you said Kia it got my thinker thinking. The main reason why I chose a 4.3 for my car is cause I have a truck with that same engine. Why not use a 4G69 in my next Porsche? I love the miles my wife racks up in her car. They can take the boost, and I'm familiar with the block.

And as a side note I LOVE Honda (as long as the Honda product has wings on the emblem). I've had Honda generators, lawnmowers, motorbikes, and pressure washers, but I refuse to buy Honda products that don't have wings (ie their cars). I see Honda cars as an affront to the good Mr. Honda. Who just wanted to give post war Japanese citizens a way to power their bicycles. So I think I will now keep the tradition of NO HONDA CARS.


Back to the topic at hand:

Dude totally do that 1.8 engine. It'll be fun, powerful, light weight, and mildly reliable. You'll find parts everywhere too.

AND you'll be amazed at how big that engine bay is. You're gonna have all the room in the world to work around it. Shoot I can wrap my hands around my 4.3 when its in the engine bay.

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[Racer Boy]

Originally Posted by Newsguy

I'm not polluting a Porsche with one of those boring things. I'd put a MB in there first. In fact, the 1.8T VW is a far better option, and will bolt to the gearbox, so that's a real possibility at some point.

You are limiting yourself there, buddy. Hondas make more power with much better reliability than our M96 engines. But if you want to be a snob, go right ahead!

I used to have an Accord (speaking of boring cars) that was a real sleeper, because it had the 240 HP 3.0 V6 and a 6-speed manual. That was a great engine, it had made of torque but had screaming top end as well. I used to hunt for 1.8 turbo Audis, because it would just kill them. I always thought the 3.0 Honda would be a good swap for a Boxster, easily modded to get more power than the 3.2 M96, more reliable, and probably a lot lighter.

I've seen a Miata track day car with the 3.0 Honda in it, and it was a rocket. He paid $600 for the engine, and with a tune, intake, and exhaust was making 300 HP. Same story with a MR2 with a Camry V6 at a track day. He paid $500 for the 3.0 V6, and was getting 300 HP. Either of those soul-less Japanese engines will last a lot longer than a M96 while making more power.