On the lookout for an m96
 

As most of you know, my engine grenaded a few weeks back. :ah: I’m searching for a replacement m96 motor which will play nice with my DME 7.8. This would be a 3.2 from a 2003-2004 Boxster or a 3.4 or 3.6 from a 911 2002 or later (I think). Any suggestions to where I might look? I live in Montreal but am not adverse to having something shipped.

Since you are in Canada ...maybe start with these

Whaletail Canada Home

NineApart Nineapart New Arrivals - Used Porsche Parts

PORSCHAPART Toronto Canada 416-798-9598 Nineapart Home - Used Porsche Parts - Porsche Recycling Facility

black gold import auto parts in Nisku( Edmonton) Alberta

US sources here.

looks like this guy as bad heads but good bottom end; perhaps between the two of you one good engine can be made ...

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/73450-intermix-long-post-asking-advice-repair.html

Sent you a PM.

Thanks for the links! :cheers:

3.2 from a 2001 boxster rollover with only 33K miles complete with flywheel and clutch $4K. PM for pics and details

2001 motor won't work for an 04 engine computer.

If you want, pm me more details on the 01 motor though.

Thanks, but I need something ‘03 or later to work with my 7.8 dme. (Unless it’s from a 996 which changed in ‘02)

how about one of these ...

Cayman Parts - Motor and Trans - Pelican Parts Forums

and one of these ...

https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-marketplace/1053827-tpc-stage-2-turbo-package-for-sale.html

An M97 3.8 may also work if you get the ECU and engine wiring harness. Before I decided to get my 2003 S engine rebuilt, my shop had a totaled 987 Cayman track car with a 3.8 factory crate engine and the owner was looking at parting it out. My shop said the engine would work in my car but the cost for the engine, ancillary equipment and labor was about 33% more than I am expecting to pay for a rebuild with the IMS Solution and LN Nickies increasing my engine to 3.6 liters so I didn't pursue it.

There were 2 or 3 3-chain 3.2 M96 engines for 2003-2004 on eBay last time I looked. The prices weren't bad but they all higher mileage - 80k or 100k. Specialized German in Rancho Cordova, California had a lower mileage 2003-2004 S 3.2 maybe around 50k for around $8k last summer if I recall correctly. I did a lot of looking before deciding to have mine rebuilt. Good luck with your search!

So, just how "tunable" are our ECU's? Back in the day, it was as simple as programming an EPROM and slapping it into the Motronic ECU. It seems the easiest bang for the buck HP performance upgrade is doing the 3.6 Nickies, but wouldn't that require a new fueling map, or would the ECU "learn" the setup? I've seen the various programming tools for the newer engines, but haven't seen much for our cars and our electronics.

Seems to be lots of 2.7s out there. Very few 3.2s and always at 2 to 3 times the price!

PaulÈ, A 3.8 would be lovely but rather pricey. A rebuild is out of the question since I have no core to work with!

prelude guy has a 3.6 ...

http://986forum.com/forums/boxsters-cayman-cars-sale-wanted/73225-wtb-boxster-s-bad-motor.html

My own 2003 S engine is going to be rebuilt as a 3.6 with LN Nickies whenever the case eventually comes back from LN. My shop tells me the thing that takes the most time is the plater they use. Once the case is bored out and the sleeves are inserted, they need to be plated and then go back to LN to go through a final precision finish/polish. The plater takes a long time. My shop says the ECU can be tuned. They will install an off the shelf tune in my car's ECU, and then we'll go from there. They have a dyno and my tune can be further tweaked and customized if necessary. In addition to the 3.6 Nickies, my car will also have a 987 airbox and Fabspeed headers with catalysts. For now the intake plenum and throttle body will remain stock, I'm not sure if the 987 MAF or 986 MAF is going to be used. I know a lot of folks have gone to a bigger intake plenum and throttle body - my shop has said they've not seen improvements on their dyno with those modifications, so I'm going to stick with the original plenum and throttle body for now.

When it comes to the engine and major stuff, I am not a do-it-yourself guy - I draw the line for DIY at brake pads and rotors, radiator cleaning, short shifter installation, rear speaker kit installation, OBC stalk installation. I did the ignition switch once and when it failed the second time because I used one I bought at NAPA in a pinch that was made in China from lower quality plastic, I had my shop upgrade it to the 987 lock and switch.

So I'm going with the recommendations from my shop on the engine because I'm have to rely on them to make it work.

An RND engine from Mr. Navarro?

Thanks for the tip!

Very nice but pricey and you need a core, which I don’t have. :(

Could you put a standing order with LA Dismantlers and or the like? This way you have shot at stuff that comes up, right away..

Sorry I don't have a good Canadian example for you.

Maybe. I talked to a fellow in Calgary who sells engines adverised on Kijiji. It seems that he acts as a middleman sourcing his engines from a dismantler in Texas.

I saw this on craigslist yesterday:
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/d/porsche-engine/6759214011.html
No 3.2s at the moment but there are some bigger ones :) ... and they ship.

Thanks Grant, I’ll check it out. :)

Unless you find a motor within east Canada, you're going to spend a bunch on shipping. I have lots of Canadian customers get their stuff delivered right across the boarder. I'm not sure how your taxes work, but I'd think about taking the intake manifolds off before you cross. I'd imagine a "Subaru" engine would be cheaper than a Porsche engine. I have a Mexican customer that has me write up fake invoices for when he crosses.

Thanks for your input Woody. Removing the intake manifolds changes what? I’ll have to contact the Canadian border services to see what the current situation is with auto parts. Your current president has thrown a wrench in the works and it is no longer clear what is dutied, taxed, surtaxed, etc. Before, auto parts manufactured in the US were duty free whereas German parts were taxed at 6.1%. :(
BTW do you have an 03 or later 3.2 motor?
Cheers James

I'd suggest contacting Alex Baldwin or Whoopi Goldberg. I'm sure that in fleeing our country for yours, they likely found some creative ways to import / export between the two.

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The intake runners have Porsche stamped on them. Take them off and I doubt anyone will know what motor it is. Say it's a subaru motor. Easy enough to make a fake receipt to go along with it.

Sorry I don't. That's probably the hardest M96/M97 motor to come across. I've only ever had one out of the 70 boxsters I've bought. The guy who bought that one also has dibs on the next one. 3.6's are easier to come by and probably cost the same as a 3.2 3 chain.

I know this wouldn't help Newart, but earlier this week I watch a 2001 Boxster S with front accident damage sell for 1700$ Canadian on an online auction. Almost broke my heart. Unfortunately those auctions are not generally open to the public.

Actually the above was a 2002. I just did some more searching and found this in Calgary (I assume from the floods last year(?)):
https://www.copart.ca/lot/41633778
This car does not need a dealer licence for bidding. Might be an interesting challenge if you don't mind finding a fish in the intake manifold. :D

Also I imagine you are watching eBay... there are several 3.2s available at the moment and a ton of 2.7s and 2.5s... last time I looked there was almost nothing.

I’m looking for a 2003 or later. These are the 3 chain engines that use the 7.8 motronics. Porsche used the DME 7.8 in the 2002 996 but only started in 2003 for the Boxster.
Thanks for keeping an eye out for me Grant!

I have a 2004 3.2 from a Boxster for you. located close by (Toronto) and even comes with it's own mode of transport to ship to you

http://986forum.com/forums/boxsters-cayman-cars-sale-wanted/74143-2004-boxster-s.html#post585395

feel free to PM me if you want further details

Sent you a p.m. , thanks!

Have you tried this place?
Contact Us - Nineapart Used Porsche Parts - Porsche Recycling Facility

I called them but they are closed for the winter. Seems that Frank, the Porsche guy has just undergone some surgery and will be off for a few months. :(

Perhaps buy a salvage title car and part it out after removing the engine. If I had an extra garage bay I would seriously consider one like this:
https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=30524554&rowNumber=0&loadRecent=Tru e
$3000 US buy it now... plus associated expenses and a road trip to pick it up.

If he wants an engine with 130k miles on it... like in that salvage title car... mine will be for sale in a few months :p

Not the right year and it has a water pump with a metal impeller.

So it must be a 2001 or 2002. How do you tell from the photos?