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JFP,
Great suggestion. I wonder why Pedro has not incorporated it? Low cost and simple but requires some skill to execute ? |
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James.
Did you communicate directly with Pedro? I notice you posted your vid 2 years before Pedro. I ask because he may have been unaware of your 'prior art'. If you have ever spoken with Pedro he seems the most unlikely plagiarist. At least he proposes a Solution. Opps, that should be Solution TM? |
James I would argue that Pedro may not be completely correct. While the thermal dynamics of heating and cooling are certainly correct I suspect there is a problem with the gas law. During the cooling cycle there are 2 phases in contact with the bearing, a gas phase and an oil phase. Since fluid flow is always to the path of least resistance then the gas phase must preferentially move through the bearing during heating and cooling cycles before the viscous oil. I suspect this eventually pushes out the grease and causes the seals to fail, then the oil simply equalizes through the bearing by gravity. A sealed bearing could very well be fine if there was a vent hole in the IMS shaft. Just my thoughts.
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It is fun to play with the "just vent it' idea. When replacing and IMSB w/o engine dismantling it is difficult to drill a small hole in a safe area of the IMS?
You could puncture the one remaining inner seal? The there is the Vertex 'technique' at the other end of the IMS tube that involves a hammer and punch .Perhaps not. |
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"once the cases are split apart"
Funny -that is cheating :-). The trick as I said is to suggest a how-to w/o dismantling the engine. How can it be done as part of a normal IMSB replacement? |
Fwiw...
...I just bought a 2004 Boxster S and immediately shipped her to Jake Raby and Flat 6 Innovatons and had them install the "IMS Solution", which is a plain bearing fed by an oil line.
The service experience was spectacular. Highly recommended. Good luck. :cheers: |
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Who knew that 1/3+ 1/3 = a whole?? Must be some new fangled fraction stuff.. |
22 seconds into the video is why
I get so frustrated when these topics come up. So few want to admit that there are other options and perhaps other equally as viable solutions to the IMS debacle.
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I think there are different philosophies and ideas out there.
Honestly i'm not a fan of oil feeded open roller bearing or plain bearing. If i had to rebuildt my engine i allways would go with a vented tube (by holes) and a high quality sealed roller bearing. To drill holes from the inside of the tube will be possible but will need a special driller and a very precision drilling to not harm anything outside the tube or the tube. Also there is a danger that drilled parts could get into the engine from the outer side of the tube while drilling. So no option for me. Alternatively i think it's a good idea to seal the tube volume by a king of machined plug and use a sealed roller bearing. The question is what material to use. A soft aluminium alloy could be a good idea, because of a high thermal coefficient. If pressed in this could be a good air sealer directy behind the roller bearing. Regards Markus |
I'm certainly no expert and I wouldn't dare side with any particular ims bearing provider since I understand f*** all in bearings. But from my ignorance I think that some more oil being fed to the ceramic bearings wouldnt hurt.
how about using LN's ceramic bearings with the oil feeder from the other end of the shaft from EPS (that requires a punch) to help the bearings with some oil. As I said, I have no clue how bearings work, I'm just looking for the best way to go with upgrading my bearing without taking the engine out of my car, and I'm after an unbiased opinion. in the meantime I found another video from pedro, here's the link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCE-KnTDSvo where he compares a brand new ceramic bearing with one that has 45,000 miles on it and there is a big difference in play in the bearings. Any thoughts on that? why has that happened to a dual row bearing which should last at least 75,000 miles? in the other video he claims that his steel bearing in his boxster have already lasted 125,000 miles with the DOF, so obviously he's claiming that that's much better than LN's recommended bearing life. Again, I know nothing in this field, but I'm just trying to buy whats best out there, since these bearings don't come cheap, and I don't want to be regretting my decision in a couple of years, thanks |
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I think that's a lot of bla bla from Pedro. There are a lot of different kinds of bearings made for special applications. Also there are different quality grades available. He also didn't name manufacturer or type, nor the specs. So you can't say that ceramic is bad and metal is good. That's complete bulls…t. The bearing has to the right one for the application. I did some research on that a while ago. And i'm pretty convinced that there are ceramic roller bearings that won't fail within the given specs. But these are not the china cheap ones. ;) A sealed bearing is always the better solution. Problem is the under- / overpressure in the tube. Oil feed has in my opinion some disadvantages. Oil has to be clean and you can't prevent to swap uncleaned oil from the oil pan to the bearing. An oil line can break. Also there will be oil in the tube. So in my opinion the best is to solve the under- / overpressure problem first. That's not against Jake's or Pedros or any other solutions. They work, but you'll have to do a lot of oil changes and the solution won't work for a life time. So you'll have a lot of follow up costs that i don't like. Regards Markus |
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Also, as i stated before,I dont use the car much, and since statistically those are the type of cars that suffer the most,will LN's bearings have the same problems with cars that dont get used much? They say they life their bearings at 75000 miles or 6 years, since I don't use the car much, if after 6 years the bearings will have 20000 miles on them, will they still have to be changed? |
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