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I would spend 59.95 on a 986/ 987 Fastener Specification Guide 24 80.00%
No, its not worth it. 6 20.00%
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Old 10-05-2015, 04:31 AM   #1
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986/ 987 Torque Specification Book? Would you buy one?

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Over the past few months I have been working on a guide specifically for the torques associated with the entire vehicle that uses an illustrated parts breakdown arrangement to reference which fastener goes where, by position. It also has bolt length, and diameter, as well as the type of coating that the fastener may have. These are a necessity in any tool box, professional, and enthusiast alike. Finding one torque spec thats embedded deeply in a work shop manual can take several minutes, and some simple cannot be found. This reference changes everything, since it gives all the specs by sub- assembly, and puts the torques at your finger tips in seconds.

I have just completed the 997 Fastener Torque Specification Guides (189 pages) and they release this week. The 996 version (150 pages) is at the printer now, will be done next week.

While some specs of 986 and 987 are the same as their big brothers in the 911 series, others are different. There's not enough cross over between the models to create one book that is able to accurately cover both Boxster and 911 models.

My question to you is more of a survey, so I have started a poll with this thread. The retail price the book for 986 and 987 would be 59.95. The books will have 150+ pages, so we would not combine 986/987 together, they would be split up like we have the 996/ 997 books.

My question to you is more of a survey, so I have started a poll with this thread. The retail price of the book for 986 and 987 would be 59.95 retail. If you would be inclined to purchase a book like this, at this price, please cast a ballot in the survey. Here are some shots of the front and back cover of the 997 book, and also a sample of an illustrated parts breakdown, and torque table. The 986/987 books would be the same. If I decide to do these, they will be available in 3-4 months.










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I think it would be a really useful book. 60 bucks seems a touch steep but I also understand the niche market and printing costs dictate that price. Yes I'd probably purchase one.
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I think it would be a really useful book. 60 bucks seems a touch steep but I also understand the niche market and printing costs dictate that price. Yes I'd probably purchase one.
Thanks for the input. Compiling the data takes a long time, as most of it is far from easy to find.

Printing and etc does add costs, too.

With a 59.95 price at retail, I am sure that actual costs would be less by most sellers of the book. These will NOT be selling through Amazon for the first 2 years, and maybe never.
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make it an e-book on Amazon and lower the cost
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make it an e-book on Amazon and lower the cost
No desire to deal with Amazon at this time, or to make it an E book. We are going to try to keep the sales, and distribution limited to the Porsche industry.

Print books have a welcome place in glove boxes, and tool boxes. In my classes all the attendees want printed materials. Out of 600 attendees this year so far, we have only had 4 requests for electronic files, the rest wanted the print materials.
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Jake This is a great idea and I would take the first off the press! The only thing that would make better is if it had the recommended sealant, anti-seize or thread locker listed.
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Jake This is a great idea and I would take the first off the press! The only thing that would make better is if it had the recommended sealant, anti-seize or thread locker listed.
The fasteners for these engines are micro- encapsulated, so sealants are not necessary. My engine rebuild book (to be released at the Porsche Literature Meet in 2016) will have some pointers on the items that you brought up.

I had originally tried to include all the torques for the engines in my rebuild book, but it added too many pages, and on top of that, the rebuild book covers M96 and M97, so it would be confusing. With the separate directive things are much more stream lined, and specific.
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No desire to deal with Amazon at this time, or to make it an E book. We are going to try to keep the sales, and distribution limited to the Porsche industry.

Print books have a welcome place in glove boxes, and tool boxes. In my classes all the attendees want printed materials. Out of 600 attendees this year so far, we have only had 4 requests for electronic files, the rest wanted the print materials.
I would agree that for "Pros", printed is better as they would be referencing it very often. For back yard mechanics /DIY, electronic is preferred as we would not be using it as often and if a printed page is needed, its easy to print a page or 2

Sell it as a PDF yourself for a lower cost
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I will buy one i think it is a great idea.
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Thanks for the input on the PDF version. It was heavily considered, but at this time there's no plans to offer this outside of print.
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The fasteners for these engines are micro- encapsulated, so sealants are not necessary.
Jake, I would be interested on the Torque Specs for the 987

I have one question: Does the torque required for a micro-encapsulated fastener and a regular fastener used with Locktite varies, or the torque value remains the same?

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Cool 986 Torque Spec

I would like one please for the 986. Nice one Jake.
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Hopefully you use a grammar checker before printing!

INB4 hatred, would be helpful for a copy of said book.
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I think it's a great idea, the more information at ones disposal the better! Takes the guess work out of things
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Is it different or more complete than the Bentley manual? If not, I'd certainly lower the price as you can pick up a Bentley manual for about that same price.
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I will buy one i think it is a great idea.
I agree. I'd buy it.
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I love the idea, but I don't think it provides enough new information to justify a $60 price.

For the average DIY'er, all of the information needed (torque specs, bolt types, exploded diagrams, etc) for hundreds of different common services/repairs are available in the Bentley Manual, the 986 Parts Catalogue, and online.
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The Bentley has about 20% of these torques in it's composition. The Bentley has no specific fastener position, diameter, or length included, and does not address coatings of fasteners, nor does it offer a torque table.

These books are a minimum of 150 pages, and it's 100% torque specifications. The 997 book is 189 pages, and more than likely the 987 book would be about the same as that.

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