Cold air intake

[mikefocke]

And in your 60s-70s you can buy hearing aids for about what an IMS replacement costs.

An air filter is there to filter dirt out of the air. Most of the oiled filters do a very poor job of doing that.

You already have a cold air intake.

Your car, your $, your choice. Good luck in whatever you do.

[Topless]

If you want the oiled CAI strictly for Bling factor, go for it.

If you want it for better performance, ignore. Just change the paper filter with every oil change for best performance.

[Luv2Box]

I'm 68 Mike, still have perfect hearing and replaced the IMS four years ago. "Most" has a lot of space left in it for those that do a good job. Look into Evolution Motor Sports and you will find their CAI units are in a lot of Porsche models including track use and at one time were sold by Suncoast and could be ordered by my local dealer. Porsche no longer sells them because of some state laws that prohibit modifying a car even if the mod makes it run better.

Originally Posted by mikefocke

And in your 60s-70s you can buy hearing aids for about what an IMS replacement costs.

An air filter is there to filter dirt out of the air. Most of the oiled filters do a very poor job of doing that.

You already have a cold air intake.

Your car, your $, your choice. Good luck in whatever you do.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Luv2Box

I'm 68 Mike, still have perfect hearing and replaced the IMS four years ago. "Most" has a lot of space left in it for those that do a good job. Look into Evolution Motor Sports and you will find their CAI units are in a lot of Porsche models including track use and at one time were sold by Suncoast and could be ordered by my local dealer. Porsche no longer sells them because of some state laws that prohibit modifying a car even if the mod makes it run better.

It doesn't. We have run before and after dyno runs with EVO and other suppliers systems, the differences where very very small (less than 2 HP), and sometimes where even negative. A lot of money to spend for those kinds of results. But enjoy the noise.....

[Luv2Box]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

It doesn't. We have run before and after dyno runs with EVO and other suppliers systems, the differences where very very small (less than 2 HP), and sometimes where even negative. A lot of money to spend for those kinds of results. But enjoy the noise.....

So JFP you can tell us you've never spent any money on something that gave you pleasure regardless of what other people think about it. It is my money, not yours, and if you read my post I never said anything about a hp gain as I don't believe in them either. Besides, it's not noise it is a flat six symphony.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Luv2Box

So JFP you can tell us you've never spent any money on something that gave you pleasure regardless of what other people think about it. It is my money, not yours, and if you read my post I never said anything about a hp gain as I don't believe in them either. Besides, it's not noise it is a flat six symphony.

Actually, you did: "I can't tell you if my car recovered the claim of 7-8hp gain as I did not dyno the car before and after."

But you are absolutely correct in the fact that it is your car, and your money to spend anyway you please.

Running a shop, we get inquiries all the time about CAI, DME ref-lashes, aftermarket exhaust systems, larger throttle bodies, intake plenums; you name it. And we always answer the question to the best of our knowledge and experience, even if it pisses off those asking the questions......

[Luv2Box]

Actually no I didn't, if I had said I felt it gained 7-8 hp I would have made a claim but I said I can't. There is a difference in those meanings. Perhaps JFP to the best of your knowledge and experience is not always the final word on things for everyone and if you resort to sarcasm, the way you have here, I can understand how you would piss people off.

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Actually, you did: "I can't tell you if my car recovered the claim of 7-8hp gain as I did not dyno the car before and after."

But you are absolutely correct in the fact that it is your car, and your money to spend anyway you please.

Running a shop, we get inquiries all the time about CAI, DME ref-lashes, aftermarket exhaust systems, larger throttle bodies, intake plenums; you name it. And we always answer the question to the best of our knowledge and experience, even if it pisses off those asking the questions......

[mikefocke]

I've only seen two independent tests of oiled filters versus "paper". Consumer Reports and some reputable car mag, which one escapes me. Both results were more dirt and in larger particles made its way to the engine. Lots lots more.

If you are willing to trade that for noise, go for it.

[Luv2Box]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

I've only seen two independent tests of oiled filters versus "paper". Consumer Reports and some reputable car mag, which one escapes me. Both results were more dirt and in larger particles made its way to the engine. Lots lots more.

If you are willing to trade that for noise, go for it.

I don't live in a high air particulate area and if I did I might not. By your own admission, Mike, you have been out of the arena you were once in and in your statement you allude to things that you have no concrete evidence for, in particular a test of the EVOM CAI system so perhaps it's best you enjoy your retirement and stop giving unsupported advice.

[mikefocke]

I did not make any statement relating to the Evcom product.

I merely injected some independent testing results re oiled filters into the discussion. It always helps if the OP has the most info from which to make an informed choice.

Ageism comments don't belong here.

[Luv2Box]

"If you are willing to trade that for noise, go for it."
And neither does sarcasm.

Originally Posted by mikefocke

I did not make any statement relating to the Evcom product.

I merely injected some independent testing results re oiled filters into the discussion. It always helps if the OP has the most info from which to make an informed choice.

Ageism comments don't belong here.