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986 aero & cooling mods
In the past couple of months there's been some thread content regarding aero and cooling mods. Didn't want to hijack, so here's a thread for this subject. The recent "no bumperettes" thread had some questions about getting heat out from around the muffler, so here's pics of my solution.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423427591.jpg http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423427622.jpg First off are the rear bumper vents. Unfortunately, between the aluminum bumper and the body there is a body seam that blocks flow. I bent this downwards, opening a gap between the two. I have also removed all of the heat shielding from beneath the trunk and around the aluminum bumper. I've had the car set up like this for more than a year. No noticeable differences in coolant temps, but when the car is in grid, I'll put my hand over the vents and can feel plenty of heat coming out. The second pic is new for this year. I've opened up the rear wheel housings to increase airflow to the muffler. We'll have to see how it goes. |
Thanks Fro, interesting approach.
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I've thought about the 'parachute' effect when the oem muffler was replaced with a smaller aftermarket muffler, and how you could vent the rear bumper cover to avoid it. also thought about adding something like this that would run from the transmission pan to the rear bumper cover (trim the cover so that the diffuser came just under the licence plate) - one on each side of the exhaust outlet:
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The universal diffuser is interesting. I've thought about adding something like that and exiting the exhaust behind the rear wheels.
Anybody got a DIY for making a wind tunnel?😃 |
You could buy this Duraflex rear bumper, cut it out and use mesh like in the picture.
[IMG]http://www.****************************************/images/duraflex/body-kits/104994-2.jpg[/IMG] I bought one to put on my car, unfortunately it arrived damaged. I can tell you this though while it was in my hands. They don't do a great job on the fiberglass laying. Will need lots of prep work. |
Did Porsche ever publish aero data for either of the 986 aero kits?
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Kirk on here did this...
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423442293.jpg Bumper off so one might see where to trim the heat shield.. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423442387.jpg |
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WOW !! This is great.
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While we're doing semi-naked tail shots:
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423453461.jpg You can see the lip that I had to bend up to create airflow. I do put the rear aluminum bumper back on, just in case. I have no quantitative data, but I believe that my spoiler configuration creates a low pressure area that helps pull air/heat through the vents in the bumper cover. The back end of the car certainly gets dirty quickly! |
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dunno about tail lights, but that's a gemballa rear bumper. unobtainium currently, and requires a special exhaust to match it. probably have to assume the bumper is gone in that install as well. ever looked at what eric did with his rear bumper cover - removed everything below the trim line.
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Moving on up the car...
Who's had those little air dams in front of the wheels get taken out? Maybe a better question is, who's still got 'em intact? Here's my mod, fabbed from a special Porsche Tequipment landscape edging: http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423499962.jpg http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423499989.jpg http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423500015.jpg |
Anyone consider doing what Porsche did to cool the muffler & install a 03-04 rear bumper cover?
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2003 press info listed the rear bumper redesigned to enhance muffler cooling.
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we risk adding drag and/or increasing lift. |
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I figure that Porsche must have considered the design of the rear bumper and found any alterations unnecessary - modern cars have to be designed with max mpg in mind so if there were any 'parachute' effects from the rear, they would have addressed them.
At speed I expect the air just flows by - kind of like an upside down pick up - where it is much better to leave the tailgate up! |
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http://www.carsbase.com/photo/Porsch..._pic_72772.jpg or a 918: http://www.top50whips.com/wp-content...ear-bumper.jpg |
With respect to the rear diffuser, Porsche forgot the 'form follows function' rule on the Spyder- but not the 918.
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I will say that I noticed something a couple years ago at brbs. I was parked next to a new spyder and my aerokit 1 rear spoiler was pretty much exactly the same slope and shape as a new spyder. Quite interesting when I noticed it. Not a great comparison but it was cool to see in person. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423690318.jpg
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Alright, moving to the front of the car I've replaced the destroyed front wheel air dams with ones similar to those in the rear. As well, I've added a small air dam to the middle of the underside. Both sets direct air towards the GT3 brake ducts.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423749523.jpg Another bit, while we are under the nose, is that I've closed off the factory air exits for the center radiator. Air is now forced to exit through the vents cut in front of the hood. Theoretically, this should produce some downforce. The less air there is moving under the car, the better off it is, right? http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423749742.jpg |
You might consider front fender liner vents:
http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/52526-flow-through-front-fender-liners.html |
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I guess theoretically, you could produce some down-force, but without putting it in a wind tunnel there is no way to actually know what is happening. you are likely to cause other things like drag. Yes, the GT3 has them. Porsche did aerodynamic design and testing to calculate and design exactly what was needed. Without that design and testing, who knows what is happening. You could actually cause more lift on the from end by disrupting the aerodynamics. its kind of like using a butt dyno to calculate HP increase I'm not trying to pick on you. IIRC, you were asking about making modifications to the spoiler as well to increase MPG. Its just without advanced computer modeling and actual wind tunnel testing ANY modification to the aerodynamics of the car as designed could cause unwanted properties and have a negative effect on handling and efficiency |
well, I went to school for such engineering, but even an application of "where does the air go?" works here. quickly, where does the air go from the side radiators? down. where does the air go from the centre radiator? down. we are taking a whole mess of air hitting the front of our car at, say, 100 mph, and deflecting it downwards. think harrier jet. what effect does this have on the driving experience? understeer. from a litigation point of view (ie, after their experience with the 930 and having to remove it from the us market) would Porsche rather have understeer or oversteer? honestly, you want as little air under your car as possible - this is why cars have front spoilers and side skirts. rear diffusers are there to turn what little air does get under the car into downforce.
now then, what does Porsche to with the gt3, gt3rs, gt2? side radiators vent into the wheel wells or out the side of the bumper cover. centre radiator vents upwards. why on these porsches and not all porsches? one is an entry level street car for the unwashed masses, the other is a dedicated track weapon. I think the fro's comment about the airflow path on his centre radiator is regarding the path the air follows from the outflow of the radiator to the top vent. the gt3rs and gt2 use a duct that requires a bunch of other changes to make it work (spacing out the front bumper, revised side rad ducts to accommodate the fact that the centre rad is moved forward, etc.); without this the flow is a bit more convoluted. however, this would only affect cooling and not aero; less flow through the centre rad is better than a lot of downward flow through the centre rad. |
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...eventually you could go to mesh and seal the under side...but there has to be the correct amount of the cooling airflow through the liner. |
I'm not an aeronautical engineer, but I was hoping to hear from some. (Thanks, TRK!) My purpose with this thread was to generate some discussion, share what I've done, and see what others are doing. Although I keep insurance, tags, and state inspection on my 986, it's not exactly a street car. It's built to compete in SCCA F Prepared and PCA Improved autocross classes. Winning and losing often comes down to hundredths of a second, so I'm game to try things out to see what works. In a way, it's my hobbyist racer test lab, so if someone can make suggestions, improvements, or point out fatal flaws, I want to know about it.
By the way, I have moved the center radiator out towards the front of the car, and I added ducting to channel air through it and upwards. I don't have data on the aero, but when the car gets moving, the temps drop fast. On hots days at autocross, that's important. |
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996 gt2, 996 tt and 997 all vent into the fender. if you look behind your rad and in front of your fender liner there isn't actually that much of an opening for the air to flow into the fender given the orientation of the rad.
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This drag will vary with airspeed and perhaps a little with exhaust/venting; airflow through the radiators. The flow path is so convoluted and restricted that would guess very little effect. You need a wind tunnel to know. As a side note I believe I recall a Mustang (aircraft not car) cooling vent that actually produced thrust and hearing about open car windows giving very little drag due "filling" of the cabin at speed...thereby giving the effect of a "closed" window....dunno without testing. In this case there no aim to reduce drag. We are considering aero and cooling. Consider that improved cooling might achieved by venting the liner and improved aerodynamic performance by closing the downward rad vent exhaust. How so you might ask....well it is felt by some that this is done to reduce front end lift at speed (hence the hovercraft reference). And yes optimizing cooling may hurt aero. Now does lift occur in the wheel well? Perhaps there is just enough escape path areas ... |
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