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coloradojay 09-26-2014 12:16 PM

Low profile subwoofer discussion and build thread
 
I want more bass in my 01 Box S. I'd also like to eliminate some of the existing distortion from bass heavy music (likely either by raising the high pass crossover point of the door woofers, or being able to EQ bass out with a sub doing the heavy lifting). I'll likely do other stereo upgrades in the future, but adding sub-bass seems like the area it lacks the most from the factory, as well as the the trickiest to solve given the space constraints in the 986 platform. I've researched several of the shallow subs available on the market and last night I pulled the trigger on one of these:

PHS.13 - Phantom - Subwoofers - Products

They are available for about $100 shipped, which seems like a good deal given the specs and design. They claimed at the time of release that was is the shallowest sub on the market at 2" mounting depth. Even the 8 and 10" shallow subs I was considering are deeper than the PPI (2.5" for the Pioneer 8" and 3 1/4 for the JL 10"). Rated at 200 watts, it's not going to win any Bass competitions, but I'm hopeful it will be able to cleanly fill the bottom end at a reasonable volume.

I will likely build an easy to remove, tall wedge box (5" or so deep at the bottom up the seat back to maybe 2" at the top yielding just over 1/2 cubic foot) with the driver firing into the passenger seat. The idea being I can pull it out to reclaim leg room when when I want to.

This specs say it can operate in a sealed enclosure as small as .5 cubic feet and designed for only .75 cubic feet. I might play with some box modeling software to see how ports might work too (with the idea of porting under the seat to take advantage of some additional cabin gain), however it's not designed or recommended for ported enclosures likely because the throw is so shallow.

I'll post updates here as the build progresses.

Has anyone else installed a shallow sub in your Box? I've seen a bunch of the footwell boxes, but they mostly seem to have standard depth/throw small subs in them.

SpikeJr 09-26-2014 06:27 PM

I will be interested to hear how this works out for you. Many threads on subwoofer installs out there - from what I've seen, it's difficult to get one in place without compromising legroom, aesthetics, sound, etc...

I am finishing up an install and I think I'm going to be adding a sub at some point. Right now I have JL Audio C5-653's with crossovers installed. Also running a JL Audio XD600/6 amp located in the front trunk. The HU is going to be a Pioneer DEH-x6700bt which was a compromise after the Clarion CZ-702 sounded like garbage. That's another story...

Anyway - the 653's are a nice improvement over stock - however, the low end isn't quite where I would like it to be...an option might be to replace the 6.5" mid-bass in the door with a dedicated 6.5" woofer if I can find a decent shallow-mounting one.

If that doesn't produce the bass I'm looking for, I like the idea of the removable enclosure behind the passenger seat idea. I think you'll find that the space under the seat is going to be a challenge - running ports under the seat will limit the seat from being fully lowered. I believe that if you lower the seat as far as it will travel, that the structure literally skims the carpet when moving the seat forward / aft. There was some discussion awhile ago about using bushings and longer bolts to raise the seat - however, the unknown was the change in shear loading on those components in the event of an accident.

JayG 09-26-2014 07:56 PM

Ive also been looking for a decent sub for my Boxster. I often have my wife in the car, so a footwell or behind the seat enclosure wont work. I have the basic sound system, no rear or door speakers although I am about to add the rear speakers.

I want to go with a sub under the right seat. 2 in depth would work for the speaker without raising the seat rails, but I think 13" diameter may be too big. I was not planning to have an enclosure for it, just the speaker under the seat. I realise that is not the best way for bass, but ya got to work with what ya got.

There are a few powered subs that are smaller, but the only one I found that would fit without raising the seat is no longer made and I have not been able to find one on the web anywhere

When you get the sub, it would be interesting to see if it would fit under the seat with the magnet in the section that is lowered in the floor pan

coloradojay 09-30-2014 07:50 AM

SpikeJr,

That JL setup looks nice, but a 6.5 can only make so much low end without a substantial enclosure. My Boxster has the factory woofers in the doors, and they actually sound pretty good, but I'm thinking I'll just bandpass them up at like 120 Hz once I have a sub so they can sing in their more optimal range. I've read a bunch of other sub threads here and elsewhere including one that talked about a custom fiberglass enclosure behind the passenger seat, but there were never any pictures of that one. Some legroom will be lost, but my goal is to keep it to a few inches, so for short trips even I at 5'10" can tolerate it while letting my 5'6" wife pilot (however she usually isn't driving ;o)). It seems that any speaker-well design is going to get kicked with my size 12s. My idea for porting under the seat wouldn't be physical tubes under the seat, just that the port(s) would fire there. With an enclosure this small (~.5 cu ft) and cone this big, ports probably won't actually be a benefit over sealed. Any sub enclosure in the cockpit is tight, which is why I'm thinking removable would be ideal- no passenger=sub, passenger=no sub. I'm tempted to try fiberglass so it is more form-fit, but I don't have much experience with it, and it can be kind of a mess.

JayG,

There are some prefab under seat subs out there which might work if you can keep the passenger from lowering the seat onto them like SpikeJr mentioned- it's really shallow and narrow under there.

Running a woofer of any size without an enclosure would result in nearly 100% wave cancellation from the front to the rear. You could still probably feel it a little bit, you would probably only hear physical noise from the cone/surround travel if there is no baffling or box to cancel or line up the phase of the back of the speaker with the front. You'd almost definitely be better of with a bass shaker like: http://986forum.com/forums/diy-project-guides/28126-sound-system-upgrade-plus-subwoofer-answer.html

Still waiting for the sub to arrive...

tonichristi 01-15-2015 09:50 AM

Did you ever get your sub installed, G-money?
Pimpin ain't easy, playa. :rolleyes:

JayG 01-15-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tonichristi (Post 431922)
Did you ever get your sub installed, G-money?
Pimpin ain't easy, playa. :rolleyes:

huh ?????

Nine8Six 01-15-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 419726)
There are a few powered subs that are smaller, but the only one I found that would fit without raising the seat is no longer made and I have not been able to find one on the web anywhere

Jay I did stopped at the AV street last Sunday afternoon. Thousand and thousand of those mini subs. Well mini... all were something like 30*22*7cm. The smallest I saw was 6.6mm tall (2.25") but still very wide (6" SW). Loosing faith lol

I have a feeling your idea of using shims, spacer, on the seat bracket is the way to go x100. I wouldn't wait if I were you and just get it done your way.

ps. also notice from the available stocks here that the smallest it is i.e. width&length, the tallest it goes :/

JayG 01-15-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 431972)
Jay I did stopped at the AV street last Sunday afternoon. Thousand and thousand of those mini subs. Well mini... all were something like 30*22*7cm. The smallest I saw was 6.6mm tall (2.25") but still very wide (6" SW). Loosing faith lol

I have a feeling your idea of using shims, spacer, on the seat bracket is the way to go x100. I wouldn't wait if I were you and just get it done your way.

ps. also notice from the available stocks here that the smallest it is i.e. width&length, the tallest it goes :/

Thanks Fred.
If you cant find it, it probably does not exist

I'm gonna get some longer grade 8 bolts and some spacers and see if I can raise the seat 1/2 inch. I'm not overly worried about shear strength with Grade 8's and I tighten it down properly. Besides, if I'm in an accident where the shear strength of the bolts comes into question, I have bigger problems. In any case it would likely be my wife in the seat and she is well insured :cool:

Nine8Six 01-15-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 431979)
Thanks Fred.
If you cant find it, it probably does not exist

I'm gonna get some longer grade 8 bolts and some spacers and see if I can raise the seat 1/2 inch. I'm not overly worried about shear strength with Grade 8's and I tighten it down properly. Besides, if I'm in an accident where the shear strength of the bolts comes into question, I have bigger problems. In any case it would likely be my wife in the seat and she is well insured :cool:

Gr8 in those size will do just fine is you get them in anything other than carbon steel (those get rusty quick).

Anything custom you need machined, just shoot me a quick PM. Just incl a basic hand drawing with dims. Got SS rods in 304 in all sizes here, can do any types of threads, length or sizes. Same goes for your spacers mate, anything fancy you need just let me know.

Thanks for helping me out on the RL forum btw ;)

JayG 01-15-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 431986)
Gr8 in those size will do just fine is you get them in anything other than carbon steel (those get rusty quick).

Anything custom you need machined, just shoot me a quick PM. Just incl a basic hand drawing with dims. Got SS rods in 304 in all sizes here, can do any types of threads, length or sizes. Same goes for your spacers mate, anything fancy you need just let me know.

Thanks for helping me out on the RL forum btw ;)

Thanks and my pleasure
The 996 Rl forum can be a bit brutal
more than a few wankers as well

Timco 01-17-2015 04:56 AM

Mine has the sub box that takes up the entire shelf over the engine compartment. Plenty of bass. 2x 8", pics if anyone wants to see it, but you lose the shelf. Great sound. It's the stock Bose unit that came with the SE.

Giller 01-17-2015 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Timco (Post 432182)
Mine has the sub box that takes up the entire shelf over the engine compartment. Plenty of bass. 2x 8", pics if anyone wants to see it, but you lose the shelf. Great sound. It's the stock Bose unit that came with the SE.

+1 I have the stock Bose surround like Timco and I think it sounds great.

juiced99ws6 02-08-2015 10:55 PM

Hey all,
I realize this is a fairly old thread but I have done a full custom stereo in my 2002 boxster so I will outline what is done.
I did the dual din conversion which was a pain in the butt, but worth it. Went with a Pioneer DVD player with 6.5 inch touchscreen. I did the micro-bypass so I did not have to hook it up to the e-brake and have full functionality at all times.
I then replaced all speakers with pioneer highs. I had the door and dash speakers in my car. When you do this the speaker buckets in the dash will have to be modified. There is a write up online for this that is very informative. The door speakers were direct replacements.
Now the door speakers will not do anything through the factory amp since the factory speakers were made to be purely for bass. With the updated deck you do not need the factory amp any longer. I removed the amp and cut both connectors off. Then I capped the amp power ground and remote wires. You should then be left with 8 wires out of each connector. You then find the corresponding colors from each bundle and simply splice them together. Also on the radio end you will have to cut the old harness to splice the wires on that end to the speaker wires on your new deck. You will have 5 wires instead of 8. One is a common negative for all speakers so you will just be splicing all four negatives to that wire. Then you simply match the colors for the other four.
Now since this whole thread was about bass, I used a Kicker Hideaway 8 inch woofer. I am 5'7 so I was able to put it behind my drivers seat and not lose any leg room at all. the seat back can still sit all the way back and the seat is only slid forward no more than about 2 inches on the rails. If you do not want to lose any personal legroom it could easily be installed behind the passenger seat back without your passenger even losing enough legroom to notice. It cost 300$, took about an hour to install, and provides substantial clean bass to my stereo. The car sounds amazing and everything can be heard crystal clear at highway speeds. Any questions feel free to ask.

flete25 02-12-2015 07:17 AM

can you post pics of the kicker hideaway sub install in your car ? I was thinking of buying that sub but wasn't sure were to put it since am 6'3" in guess ill put it behind the passenger side wife is only 5'3"...

JAAY 02-15-2015 06:03 PM

I am running a 987 footwell enclosure with an external amp. I have tried everything and this is the best solution and fits like factory. My .02

JAAY 02-15-2015 06:04 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/show-tell-gallery/37265-subwoofer-box.html

Since died black.

flete25 02-16-2015 07:58 AM

thanks jaaay !
very nice and it looks perfect fit..am gonna work on finding one for my car.

Hogosha 02-17-2015 09:36 AM

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I know I'm a rookie to the forum, but I have been using the search button like crazy, trying to soak up as much information as possible. One of the projects I plan on doing this season is speaker upgrades, dash first, doors next, and eventual rear deck installation. I have not picked out a new head unit yet. The subject of Subwoofers has come quite a bit, and some of the solutions have been fantastic.

Like some, I would love an under the seat subwoofer, but the limited clearance has thrown a monkey wrench into our efforts. Nine8Six has even scoured the market place near him without any luck. But I think I may have found a limited solution, and if this has already been discussed, please disregard. It seems Panasonic makes, or has made the under seat Subwoofer in the Subaru Impreza. It measures 2" x 8.5" x 10" , and is 120W. Although not he most powerful, this form factor might be just the ticket for some of us here that just want a bit more OOMF to round out the sound. They can be had for as little as $80 used on eBay. I think it is a 6 wire plug that would need to be spliced.

JayG 02-17-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogosha (Post 436648)
I know I'm a rookie to the forum, but I have been using the search button like crazy, trying to soak up as much information as possible. One of the projects I plan on doing this season is speaker upgrades, dash first, doors next, and eventual rear deck installation. I have not picked out a new head unit yet. The subject of Subwoofers has come quite a bit, and some of the solutions have been fantastic.

Like some, I would love an under the seat subwoofer, but the limited clearance has thrown a monkey wrench into our efforts. Nine8Six has even scoured the market place near him without any luck. But I think I may have found a limited solution, and if this has already been discussed, please disregard. It seems Panasonic makes, or has made the under seat Subwoofer in the Subaru Impreza. It measures 2" x 8.5" x 10" , and is 120W. Although not he most powerful, this form factor might be just the ticket for some of us here that just want a bit more OOMF to round out the sound. They can be had for as little as $80 used on eBay. I think it is a 6 wire plug that would need to be spliced.

that sounds perfect at least from the size.

do you by any chance have a part/model number?

JayG 02-17-2015 12:36 PM

found it on Ebay and found the wiring info on a Subaru forum
it gets power and both +&- signals from the rear speakers
the unit has gain and hi-pass adjustments

Looks like it should work fine

Good find!
:cheers:

juiced99ws6 02-19-2015 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by flete25 (Post 435873)
can you post pics of the kicker hideaway sub install in your car ? I was thinking of buying that sub but wasn't sure were to put it since am 6'3" in guess ill put it behind the passenger side wife is only 5'3"...

It will fit behind her seat perfectly. The base will be slid forward just a bit but the seat will still recline all the way back. Ill get pics soon for you.

Hogosha 02-19-2015 09:07 AM

Just found this on Pioneers website. Only 2-3/8" high, brand new.

TS-WH500A - 8 ¼" HVT Sealed Active Subwoofer | Pioneer Electronics USA

juiced99ws6 02-20-2015 12:16 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1424466717.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1424466738.jpg

This is the Kicker Hideaway behind my seat. I am 5'7 and have no issues with it there which is why its behind mine, if I were taller I could simply have put it behind the passenger seat. That Pioneer option also looks nice and will save a 1/2 and inch but I really like the quality of the kicker and will vouch for it on sound quality and ease of installation.

*note* disregard condition of my seats. my purchase of a zeintop pushed that project right on down the road. Its also snowing so that's why all the white lines in the pic.

I will post the link to the subwoofer as well.
KICKER | Hideaway Powered Subwoofer

JayG 02-20-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogosha (Post 436931)
Just found this on Pioneers website. Only 2-3/8" high, brand new.

TS-WH500A - 8 ¼" HVT Sealed Active Subwoofer | Pioneer Electronics USA

great find. It was just announced in Jan

Just need to see if it will fit under the seat
it is 13-7/16 x 9-7/8 x 2-3/8

If it fits, it is perfect!

The subaru one may be a better value at under $100

juiced99ws6 02-21-2015 05:34 AM

JayG,

A better value isn't always what you want when you are looking to increase the depth and clarity of sound in your car. I would for sure have to hear one before purchasing one. A subwoofer, amp, and custom enclosure is essentially what you get in a powered sub and for 100$.. I just don't know. Either super incredible deal orrrr......

JayG 02-21-2015 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by juiced99ws6 (Post 437179)
JayG,

A better value isn't always what you want when you are looking to increase the depth and clarity of sound in your car. I would for sure have to hear one before purchasing one. A subwoofer, amp, and custom enclosure is essentially what you get in a powered sub and for 100$.. I just don't know. Either super incredible deal orrrr......

You have a point, but bear in mind I'm not looking or expecting an audiophile system. For Pete's sake, its a car! Don't need to spend $$$$ IMHO

The Subaru sub is used and probably new is $300+. The biggest issue is the space under the seat and what will actually fit. I do not want to give up ANY legroom at all.

The Pioneer unit look like it may fit, probably need to pull the seat and measure. It is a new interesting technology.

I'm just looking to fill in the bass a little, so any sub will be fine as long as it fits

Hogosha 02-21-2015 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 437183)
You have a point, but bear in mind I'm not looking or expecting an audiophile system. For Pete's sake, its a car! Don't need to spend $$$$ IMHO

The Subaru sub is used and probably new is $300+. The biggest issue is the space under the seat and what will actually fit. I do not want to give up ANY legroom at all.

The Pioneer unit look like it may fit, probably need to pull the seat and measure. It is a new interesting technology.

I'm just looking to fill in the bass a little, so any sub will be fin as long as it fits

Jay,
My sentiments exactly, you beat me to it. I don't expect the Subaru unit to turn my stock system into BOSE, but I am sure it will be an improvement. Please let me know if you take those measurements.

juiced99ws6 02-21-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 437183)
You have a point, but bear in mind I'm not looking or expecting an audiophile system. For Pete's sake, its a car! Don't need to spend $$$$ IMHO

The Subaru sub is used and probably new is $300+. The biggest issue is the space under the seat and what will actually fit. I do not want to give up ANY legroom at all.

The Pioneer unit look like it may fit, probably need to pull the seat and measure. It is a new interesting technology.

I'm just looking to fill in the bass a little, so any sub will be fine as long as it fits

I can understand not wanting to compromise any cabin room whatsoever but if speaking in terms of value I'm not quite sure it can be recommended to the forum to just get that sub. I am trying to offer up what I have already done to help any boxster owner who may be interested. Great price on one used sub will help only one person. If they are normally very similar costwise to what I have posted the the price point is moot.

One way to go about the space issue is tof do the same thinf Porsche did originally only better. Seal the door enclosures better and add a dynamat door kit to reduce rattle. Then pick out two nice 6.5 inch subs for the doors and use a quality amp and lowpass filter to add bass. You will get less bass, pay more, and remove two highs for your system but its really about the only way I see at this point. I haven't found anything small enough to go under the seat. I don't believe a passenger would ever evem notice the difference behind their seat.

If there wete a hundred dollar no compromise option I think we would all have it by now. interested to hear your findings.

JayG 02-21-2015 02:31 PM

^^^^^
If you don't have factory door speakers, then a separate sub is really the best option. Adding door speakers is a PITA. Not only do you need to fit the enclosures, you need to replace the door panels with ones that have the speaker grills as they are different and have a bulge for the door speakers. Even worse is adding the wiring to the door. You need to add pins to both sides of the door connector as well as get access to the connector mounted on the door frame and actually run more wires into the harness.
If you already have door speakers, then its different.

And yes, at least my wife would notice a reduction in leg room either by putting a sub behind the seat or a footwell enclosure. I know because I simulated a behind seat sub with a cardboard box 2.5 in thick. Big difference in leg room.

The Subaru subs are fairly available and not a one off, lots available on ebay, etc. If the new pioneer will fit under the seat, it may be better than the Subaru sub, maybe not. Certainly much higher cost.

juiced99ws6 02-21-2015 05:25 PM

Well in that case hopefully you find what you are looking for. Its a tall order on a short budget and I have already been down this road. I am interested to see if you can wedge one under the seat. When I got mine that was my intention in both my old MR2 and in the Boxster. It wasn't even close to possible but maybe you can find differently! Best of luck man.

juiced99ws6 02-21-2015 05:31 PM

One thing I did fail to mention though, and this is for anyone who is interested and drives with a passenger only part time or has one that may or may not be bothered by the minor reduction in leg room. The powered sub has a single quick connector on it. From the time to unlock your doors to the time you set it in the trunk would be under 60 seconds. Just something else to consider on your quest for better sound. I though about this when read the OPs first post. Significantly smaller than what he was talking about building and easier to remove.

Hogosha 02-21-2015 07:16 PM

It certainly was never my intention to suggest that the addition of the Subaru subwoofer on its own was going to solve all issues. I simply did some digging, and came across it. I bit the bullet, and purchased a used one off of ebay for $70 shipped. I plan on installing it along with upgrading ALL of the speakers, including installing rear deck speakers. This will eventually be completed with a new HU, and probably an amp. I may even put one or 2 Dayton TT-25 16 Tactile Transducer Mini Bass Shakers into the mix. I am not an audiophile, nor is my wife, so I'm confident the speaker upgrades will be a vast improvement. YMMV.

JayG 02-21-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by juiced99ws6 (Post 437275)
One thing I did fail to mention though, and this is for anyone who is interested and drives with a passenger only part time or has one that may or may not be bothered by the minor reduction in leg room. The powered sub has a single quick connector on it. From the time to unlock your doors to the time you set it in the trunk would be under 60 seconds. Just something else to consider on your quest for better sound. I though about this when read the OPs first post. Significantly smaller than what he was talking about building and easier to remove.

Not a bad idea. :cheers:

juiced99ws6 02-21-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 437286)
Not a bad idea. :cheers:

It's what I always considered when I first bought the Kicker, just didn't think to mention it sooner lol. Anyways if it is a route anyone it interested in I could always take pics of the connector and how easy it is to pull out. Mine isn't mounted to anything, just wedged behind the seat. If you manage to get one under the seat somehow it just mounts with straps that I threw out long ago.

juiced99ws6 02-21-2015 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogosha (Post 437285)
It certainly was never my intention to suggest that the addition of the Subaru subwoofer on its own was going to solve all issues. I simply did some digging, and came across it. I bit the bullet, and purchased a used one off of ebay for $70 shipped. I plan on installing it along with upgrading ALL of the speakers, including installing rear deck speakers. This will eventually be completed with a new HU, and probably an amp. I may even put one or 2 Dayton TT-25 16 Tactile Transducer Mini Bass Shakers into the mix. I am not an audiophile, nor is my wife, so I'm confident the speaker upgrades will be a vast improvement. YMMV.

If you have door speakers in your car I wouldn't waste money on rear speaker upgrade until after you hear the upgrade on the rest of the speakers. I did a factory AMP bypass, the double din conversion with a Pioneer 6.5 in touchscreen DVD, and new door speakers and dash speakers and it gets pretty freaking loud. Can hear with clarity at highway speeds and top down, and audiophile or not, that should be the goal with an awesome roadster such as the ones we have.

As for cost, the double din was a personal preference that set me back about 500. Amp bypass (if you have one) is easy and can be done for 5 bucks easy. My four new speakers ran about 80 bucks at best buy. Had I gone with a single din and kit I could have been around 200$ for the head unit. So for 300$ you can have pretty great sound with no real bass to speak of. Find a subwoofer (still highly recommend the kicker) and the most you will spend is 300$ on pretty much any that you find. 600$ can get you a really good sounding boxster with bluetooth connectivity with pandora streaming and everything else. Pretty good investment so something that is used often.

Nine8Six 02-22-2015 06:57 AM

Subscribed guys, that is top info, thx

This spring or when the weather gets a tad better I am trashing the stock speakers and replacing with a medium range aftermarket kit. Thinking about 2din as well, new dash and door + whatever sub works under the seat. Same as Jay, at 6,2' so can't afford any less leg room.

Impatient to hear about Hogosha's kit

Engine noise is music enough but still... I NEED THIS THING TO SLAP loll Sick and tired of the poor quality sound in that roadster. A half-decent sound system is all what's missing in my car really :/

Hogosha 02-26-2015 05:44 AM

I recieved the Subaru Subwoofer in the mail yesterday. It is quite a compact unit! It measures 10"x 8-5/8"x2". It came with the mounting bracket and plug. I am going to give it a basic test over the weekend. I will also post pics later.

Hogosha 02-28-2015 07:40 AM

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OK, here are some pics of the unit, I placed a dollar bill on top for scale reference. I just have to figure out how to bench test the darn thing!

antny 03-19-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by juiced99ws6 (Post 437107)
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1424466717.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1424466738.jpg

This is the Kicker Hideaway behind my seat. I am 5'7 and have no issues with it there which is why its behind mine, if I were taller I could simply have put it behind the passenger seat. That Pioneer option also looks nice and will save a 1/2 and inch but I really like the quality of the kicker and will vouch for it on sound quality and ease of installation.

*note* disregard condition of my seats. my purchase of a zeintop pushed that project right on down the road. Its also snowing so that's why all the white lines in the pic.

I will post the link to the subwoofer as well.
KICKER | Hideaway Powered Subwoofer

I just installed this sub in mine. Not bad for the size. Definitely fills the lack of bass in the car. I also bypassed my factory amp with an aftermarket to make my Alpine dash and Pioneer door speakers work better. I am pretty satisfied with the overall sound now. My ears are happy again during my drives. I had the Subaru under seat sub in my last Subaru's I owned and it is more of a mid range speaker than a sub. Very little bass output. I would recommend the kicker unit if you can get it cheaper than 300 online or ebay. I bit the bullet when I was at Best buy so I paid full MSRP which is rare for me but money well spent if you like higher quality sound systems. I have replaced every sound system in every car I have owned since I was 16.

sjbox 03-25-2015 12:03 PM

Anyone had the Kenwood KSC-SW11 installed yet? It is 2.8" thick. Will that fit behind the passenger seat without taking away legroom?



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