11-25-2013, 07:20 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Installing Imagine Automotive Super Charger on my 1998 2.5 Boxster
Hi,
Been a while since I posted. Finally getting some time to resume working on my 1998 Boxster.
Here is the link to the restore I did earlier this year:
1998 Boxster Project - Complete Restoration
Anyhow, I've enjoyed driving her a lot this summer! Everywhere I go, people stop me to ask about her.
This weekend, I decided to start the Super Charger Install. I bought the system (new, never installed) from a fellow forum member 6+ months ago. I will post the progress as I go.
Any insights from fellow members are very welcomed.
For this first post, here are some pics of the SC and some of the mounting hardware from the kit. I will post each step along the way.
Here are some links to the prior work leading up to this:
Oil Leak - Pulling Trans to change RMS, IMS, Clutch, etc
http://986forum.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1702797
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1998 Black Boxster (owned since 2001)
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11-25-2013, 07:29 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Step 1: Remove the stock air intake system
Step 1: Remove the stock air intake system
I had done this step as part of the work I did earlier this year: Oil Leak - Pulling Trans to change RMS, IMS, Clutch, etc
Here are some pics of the newer cold air intake installed from this SC Kit.
This is the stock intake tube, with the baffle removed. I was able to seal the hole with some plastic
off the original air box and JB Weld. I've use it for the past 4-5 months and its performed great!
As part of this SC install, I have removed this intake tube and will be selling it with another cold
air intake kit I have. PM me if you are interested in the complete cold air intake kit.
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1998 Black Boxster (owned since 2001)
Last edited by drbodzin; 11-25-2013 at 08:08 PM.
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11-25-2013, 07:38 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Step 2: Installing Resistor in the Mass Air Flow Harness
Step 2: Installing Resistor in the Mass Air Flow Harness (I HAVE REMOVED THE RESISTOR SINCE ADDING THE Apexi AFC)
The SC kit comes with a resistor that needs to be installed on the Air Mass Flow Harness.
Before starting, detach the negative battery strap.
Locate the White Wire with the Blue Strip. Then I spliced in the resistor and soldered it in
place. So far so easy! I should also mention, I had already removed the engine cover
exposing the front of the engine and removed the serpentine belt. Although not
necessary for what's been done so far, I figured I would do all the stuff on the top
of the car before I head beneath.
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1998 Black Boxster (owned since 2001)
Last edited by drbodzin; 12-28-2013 at 09:56 AM.
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11-25-2013, 08:05 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Step 3: Relocating the Air Pump
Step 3: Relocating the Air Pump (HAVE SINCE LEARNED TO DISABLE THE AIR PUMP WHEN I TUNE THE AIR FUEL RATIOS SO I DON"T GET FALSE LEAN READINGS FROM THE WIDE BAND O2 SENSOR)
This step was mildly challenging. The Air Pump stock location is on the passenger side of the engine compartment.
It needs to be relocated to make room for the new air intake pipes. The kit comes with a custom bracket that will hold
the air pump on the driver's side of the engine bay behind the oil cooler.
Here is the Air Pump in the stock location (right arrow). It is removed by detaching the hose (left arrow) and three (3)
nuts securing it to the bracket.
When relocating it, the air intake tube from the throttle body to the air box had to be removed. With a stock oil cooler,
there is enough room to wiggle the air pump behind it and get it in place. I had installed a Boxster S oil cooler earlier,
so it was impossible to get the air pump back there. So I had to drain the coolant and oil from the engine and remove
the oil cooler. Now that I have gone through the process, not sure I would attempt it without removing the oil
cooler, even if it were a stock cooler.
The new bracket is held in place by the three rear intake manifold bolts.
Here is the final placement of the air pump. I also had to add 3 feet of wire to the wiring harness . I routed the extended
wiring around the forward portion of the engine compartment.
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Last edited by drbodzin; 12-28-2013 at 09:59 AM.
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11-27-2013, 09:14 AM
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Make sure that you put a wide band 02 sensor gauge in ASAP. You will want to know what is going on. I used a apexi afc to tune in my afr's. This will basically take the place of that resistor. FYI, my motor melted a piston or a valve with the kit, not to scare you. I was tuned to 11:2 afrs. which I feel was safe.
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Ebay Headers, Fabspeed high flow cats, JIC Cross, IPD Plenum, H&R Coilovers, B&M Short Shifter, AEM Uego Gauge Type Analog, Apexi S-AFC Select, 987 air box, Litronics, 2000 Tails and side markers, painted center console, 18" 987 S-Wheels, GT3 Front bumper with splitter.
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11-27-2013, 10:36 AM
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The "S" engines have forged pistons, other engines have cast pistons.
It would be good to have the injecters cleaned & tested to enhance fuel flow & remove a likely variable to inevitable problem solving. Test fuel pressure at the fuel rail too.
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11-27-2013, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BYprodriver
The "S" engines have forged pistons, other engines have cast pistons.
It would be good to have the injecters cleaned & tested to enhance fuel flow & remove a likely variable to inevitable problem solving. Test fuel pressure at the fuel rail too.
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Really? That I did not know. You always surprise me with your knowledge.
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996 3.4 engine with 2.7 986 5speed transmission
Ebay Headers, Fabspeed high flow cats, JIC Cross, IPD Plenum, H&R Coilovers, B&M Short Shifter, AEM Uego Gauge Type Analog, Apexi S-AFC Select, 987 air box, Litronics, 2000 Tails and side markers, painted center console, 18" 987 S-Wheels, GT3 Front bumper with splitter.
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11-27-2013, 06:26 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JAAY
Make sure that you put a wide band 02 sensor gauge in ASAP. You will want to know what is going on. I used a apexi afc to tune in my afr's. This will basically take the place of that resistor. FYI, my motor melted a piston or a valve with the kit, not to scare you. I was tuned to 11:2 afrs. which I feel was safe.
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When you say "wide band 02 Sensor Gauge", is this what you mean?
Apexi SAFC Air Flow Converter from AlamoMotorsports
Also, if you use this "wide band 02 Sensor Gauge", do you still need to get the ECU reprogrammed? Tuning is fairly new for me.
When you day you melted... with the kit, do you mean the SC kit or Apexi?
So from what I am hearing here, the resistor is s hack and the wide band sensor gauge is a better solution. Am I correct in that?
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1998 Black Boxster (owned since 2001)
Last edited by drbodzin; 11-27-2013 at 06:42 PM.
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11-25-2013, 09:25 PM
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That looks great, come and do mine when youre done!!
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11-25-2013, 10:32 PM
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Moderator
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Subscribed! Eager to follow the project.
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11-25-2013, 11:42 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Montreal, QC. (currently expat to Shanghai)
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So cool, I always wanted to do this mod on my 2.5 but we can't get anything above 95 octane in this part of the world
Someone told me to reduce the size of the pulley on the SC and it should be just fine... but then, what's the point
So all I have left as a serious power upgrade option is mimicking the sound of an F1 car with my lips. Makes my little 986 go so much faster (feels like anyway?)
Lucky you, can't wait to see the results
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Last edited by Nine8Six; 11-26-2013 at 08:07 PM.
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11-26-2013, 02:50 AM
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Beginner
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Wow! How much boost will you run, and what torque and hp gain do you expect?
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11-26-2013, 02:19 PM
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Yippee! TORQUE! And done by the best DIY'er around. Keep up the good work.
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11-26-2013, 03:59 PM
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I was just looking through your pictures, and they rock. On your resistor install you might consider using shrink tubing. You'll need to unsolder one end of the resistor and slip the shrink tubing over the wire out of the way, then back up over the resistor after resoldering. Hit the shrink tubing with heat to shrink it. It's a clean solution that looks stock and eliminates electrical tape unwinding over time.
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11-26-2013, 07:57 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesp
I was just looking through your pictures, and they rock. On your resistor install you might consider using shrink tubing. You'll need to unsolder one end of the resistor and slip the shrink tubing over the wire out of the way, then back up over the resistor after resoldering. Hit the shrink tubing with heat to shrink it. It's a clean solution that looks stock and eliminates electrical tape unwinding over time.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I am familiar shrink tubing  I did use it on the harness extension to the air pump.
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11-26-2013, 07:55 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodsman
Yippee! TORQUE! And done by the best DIY'er around. Keep up the good work. 
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Wow, that's a really nice compliment. Thanks!
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11-26-2013, 07:54 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesp
Wow! How much boost will you run, and what torque and hp gain do you expect?
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Hey,
The kit says the boost is under 6 psi to keep it safe for the Boxster engine.
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1998 Black Boxster (owned since 2001)
Last edited by drbodzin; 11-26-2013 at 07:57 PM.
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11-26-2013, 08:07 PM
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Registered User
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There is someone that we know here who has that same SC installed on his 986 and that since 2008 if my memory is good. He drives the car every single day and never complained having to change his engine once  It's all down to how you drive the car really and whether you had +100k before installing the kit.
In my case, I take the 986 out for a spin once or twice a month and I don't get used to using the gas pedal when I do - it's always floored. So in my case that would be a bit risky engine/pistons/lifters-wise. Unless of course I could find some +100 octane gas anywhere then it would be a different story
I'm guessing if you make normal use of the motor then you should be just fine!
+35rwhp? that is what my mate here claims he got out of his kit (dyno'ed). Sick eh
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11-26-2013, 09:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nine8Six
There is someone that we know here who has that same SC installed on his 986 and that since 2008 if my memory is good. He drives the car every single day and never complained having to change his engine once  It's all down to how you drive the car really and whether you had +100k before installing the kit.
In my case, I take the 986 out for a spin once or twice a month and I don't get used to using the gas pedal when I do - it's always floored. So in my case that would be a bit risky engine/pistons/lifters-wise. Unless of course I could find some +100 octane gas anywhere then it would be a different story
I'm guessing if you make normal use of the motor then you should be just fine!
+35rwhp? that is what my mate here claims he got out of his kit (dyno'ed). Sick eh
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I think he will be 75+ hp to the wheels after the install
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11-26-2013, 09:37 PM
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San Diego Boxster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by evomind
I think he will be 75+ hp to the wheels after the install
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That's what I think. From what I've read, it seems reasonable to expect 65-85 hp to the wheels. I did not get a dyno before, but I will probably get one later.
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