01-18-2006, 08:32 AM
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Location: Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota, USA
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
... exactly how many years you have with a wrench in hand? ...
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Hi,
Going on 40 years now. No need to get Nasty just because the Facts don't weigh in your favor. I have not impuned you or your skills in the least. Try and remain Objective here...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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01-18-2006, 09:51 AM
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Ex Esso kid
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,
Going on 40 years now. No need to get Nasty just because the Facts don't weigh in your favor. I have not impuned you or your skills in the least. Try and remain Objective here...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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Actually I think you have been backhandedly condescending, but guess what? you guys can have the whole forum, I'm D- U- N done posting here. Have a good day fellas.
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01-18-2006, 10:14 AM
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Hi,
I'm sorry you feel I was Backhandedly Condescending as this was certainly not my intent.
It would be unfortunate if you decide to leave the Forum, because Everyone, in His/Her own way, makes a contribution...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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01-18-2006, 01:05 PM
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Location: San Diego, CA
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I agree that on a naturally-aspirated car, a K&N filter isn't going to do anything for performance, if that's all you've done. Even with a full exhaust, it's not going to do anything. However, if you do major mods like a turbocharger or supercharger, then yes, you're going to exceed the flow rates of the stock filter.
Of course a K&N lets in more particles. There's really no reason to use one unless you've done big, beefy mods to the car. And, if you've done that, you probably aren't as concerned with having the engine make it to 200,000 miles as others might be.
It's a really common modification to do to many other cars, and has verifiable benefits--like on my Eclipse, which came turbocharged, you pretty much have to use an aftermarket air filter of some sort in order to get enough flow once you've swapped out to a bigger turbo.
I see no reason to put one on a Boxster, so by that merit, is it worth risking destroying the MAF sensor?
On that note, I'm surprised our MAFs are that sensitive. My Eclipse has used a K&N filter for over 120,000 miles now and the MAF is fine, along with the engine which doesn't seem to have been perturbed by the extra particles in the least.
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01-18-2006, 02:49 PM
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Location: Chicago
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When it comes to mods, I think of my car as a 2" water hose split into 3 sections. 1 section is the intake, the 2nd section is the engine, the 3rd the exhaust. Let's say adding an intake (or K&N filter) would make the first section of the hose 3" big and would now flow 3" of water. BUT...sections 2 and 3 are untouched and are still 2". The most you can flow from this car is still 2" of water. In order to truly notice a 3" flow from section 1 through 3 you MUST mod the rest of the car and make each mod complimentary to each other. Not doing so will realize little to NO performance gains.
Hope this makes sense...kinda elementary, I know, but its how I decide on what type of money I should spend on mods that will do NOTHING!
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01-18-2006, 03:47 PM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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Man, you guys keep talking about this MAF stuff. Can't you see what just happened here? We got dumped? Am I the only one that hurts? Am I the only one that NOTICES? What's the matter with you guys?!? I thought we were cool -I THOUGHT we were friends. Remember the good times?
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01-18-2006, 08:40 PM
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Location: Illinois
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
Actually I think you have been backhandedly condescending, but guess what? you guys can have the whole forum, I'm D- U- N done posting here. Have a good day fellas.
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lol....you've got to be kidding me. You've got your panties in a serious twist about this. What a joke.
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01-18-2006, 10:34 PM
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Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by Adam
lol....you've got to be kidding me. You've got your panties in a serious twist about this. What a joke.
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Hahahha....Couldn't have said it better myself Adam...Its kind of funny how some people get soo worked up about this stuff....Isn't it supposed to just be a discussion?
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