09-24-2005, 06:47 AM
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To add to Jim's last point, I believe a newly reconditoned engine direct from Porsche with warranty can be had for under 5K.
Beware of your mechanic!
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09-24-2005, 05:02 PM
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Frank...I believe you have a cracked engine block  , when coolant is found in the engine oil usually means that there is a leak from one of the chambers that lubricates the engine to one of the passages that cools the engine with coolant (or antigel for that matter) like from one of the piston walls.
I agree with the above explanation in the fact that metals can't "absorb" coolant, however if you have to replace the engine block, might as well get the rest of the trimmings new as well, you'll definitely feel better knowing your bottom end is up to par.
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09-24-2005, 07:02 PM
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I appreciates everyones help.I am still decideing what is to be done.
I spoke with a guy my dad knows who restores old porsches to brand new condition and he said that the amount of smoke I got is normal and the atifreeze found in the oil does not imply anything cracked as that is a normal amount to get sucked in at roughly 5000 rpms.
I am thinking my best option may be to tell him to put the car back together the way it was and go buy a newer lower mile boxster.
How much do you think I could sell it for?It has 85000 mile and is in good condition
with a blown head gasket but may or may not need a new engine.It has a 6 disk changer,sport package,and tiptronic tranny that shifts like brand new.I was hoping for $14,000 to 15,000 . Is that reasonable,to high, to low???
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09-24-2005, 07:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank
I appreciates everyones help.I am still decideing what is to be done.
I spoke with a guy my dad knows who restores old porsches to brand new condition and he said that the amount of smoke I got is normal and the atifreeze found in the oil does not imply anything cracked as that is a normal amount to get sucked in at roughly 5000 rpms.
I am thinking my best option may be to tell him to put the car back together the way it was and go buy a newer lower mile boxster.
How much do you think I could sell it for?It has 85000 mile and is in good condition
with a blown head gasket but may or may not need a new engine.It has a 6 disk changer,sport package,and tiptronic tranny that shifts like brand new.I was hoping for $14,000 to 15,000 . Is that reasonable,to high, to low???
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Hi,
Your resale is tough to gauge not knowing the MY of the car.
I think you may have heard your Dad's friend wrong. There should never be a normal circumstance which sucks Coolant into the Oil. Exactly where would it get sucked from? What would impart this vacuum energy to the coolant? No, coolant in the Oil is positively a sign of a major problem, usually the headgasket. Rarely, but possibly from a crack as mentioned.
With a Blown Headgasket, your resale will be very low because the new owner will need to spend $$ to get it fixed and will want the car discounted well below what you can fix it for.
If selling, get the repair (just the Headgasket and a coolant/Oil change) and then sell it. You'll recoup your money that way.
Happy Motoring!...Jim'99
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09-24-2005, 07:20 PM
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Now assuming I went with Jim's suggestion and did just the head gasket.What is the chances of the car running and it not having any damage after sitting for that long, or just seezing up in seconds.Do I have odds in my favor?
What is a reasonable sale price the way it is (reassembled)?
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09-25-2005, 06:04 AM
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Supply year, miles, options, condition, and color. Pix would help.
I would be happy to try to place a value on the car.
I would concur with Jim. AF in the oil indicates a breach. If you are lucky, it is the head gasket. Get it fixed, have the guy flush the oiling system, fresh oil and prayer.
Trying to sell this car the way it is will not fly. You will take it in the shorts.
Why-the buyer will assume it needs a new engine and price accordingly.
Get to a real mechanic soon! Our advice can only take you so far.
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09-25-2005, 06:22 AM
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1999
85000 miles
Options-sport package,tiptronic transmission,6 disk changer,wind reducer/stop between role bars.
Good Condition-(few dings and minor scratches,i assume they are normal for a 6 year old car)Interior looks very good.Minor scratches on wheels,nothing big.Car ran and shifted like a brand new car before incedent.Never in an accident.
Black w/ black top and tan interior.
Also,from what you guys are saying,it sounds like you think I have chances in my favor of the engine running again after a head gasket and not needing to be replaced assuming nothing cracked.Is that correct?
Last edited by Frank; 09-25-2005 at 06:34 AM.
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09-26-2005, 03:38 PM
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My mechanic also told me that the engine was definetly out before as he sees hoses where off before that would only come off when taking out the engine.My car was bought new by first owner (i'm 3rd) in December of 98 so it would fall into the category of a possible sleeved engine that could have been replaced under warrany.(1st owner sold it when 4 years old right when waranty went up.)Tommarro,I plan to call the porsche dealer it was bought at (Huntington Porsche in NY) and ask if the engine was replaced under warranty or what was done.
Now,if the is a second engine replaced under warranty,what additional warranty would porsche have givven them on this engine or none?
I appreciate evryones time and knolage.Thankyou
(Brucelee,any idea on value w/ blown head gasket)
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10-03-2005, 10:52 AM
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Frank, have you got your Boxster back yet? What did you decide to do?
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10-03-2005, 04:20 PM
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Hi,
Today was a bad day for me and my box.To start with,on thursday; I decided to go ahead with the head gasket and see what would happen.They did not seem happy that I did not want to replace the engine.I said,if they won't do the head job,just put the car back the way it was.He said he refuses to put it back the way it was.Today,I got a call from the owner of the shop saying he does not like me questioning his mechanic and telling him how to do his job.He said he took off the head and confirmed that the engine is blown.He sais he found the piston ring broke into many peices and the ring went through the entire engine including the exaust manifold making that entire side basically fried.(now,when I tried to start the engine whed it first happened;it sounded normal like it could start,I had no metal noises at any point or any noises to imly somehting like thid happened so if probably didn't.)He the sais he will not work on my car and wants me to come pick everything up(I kinda laugh at this point).
This is what I found on my answering machine at my office this morning.We have been communicating using my cell then entire time but I guess he didn't want to talk to me so he called my office on the weekend.
I guess this confirms that he is trying to rip me off
So,I followed up be giving him a letter (and sending a copy certified mail) saying that he took my engine out without my permision and never game me an estimate to sign(NJ law sais you must get a signed estimate to start work).Then saying I want him to put my car back together like when I brought it to him with it turning over, and call me when it is done.then saying,I will not be paying him for his time. I plan on taking this as far as necessary to get my car back and running.
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions other then I'm getting screwed.
Thanks,
Frank
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10-05-2005, 06:05 PM
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Can anyone help with my last post?
Thanks
This is it pasted below:
No,I regret not getting the PPI now but who wouldn't.If a ring broke,wouldn't I hear a not average noise such as metal when I turned it over?
Also,if it was hydrolocked,does that mean as it sounds that the engine is locked meaning it woudn't be ab;e to be turned over?
Everyone keeps referring to a $5000.00 rebuilt engine w/ warranty form porsche.How would I get one of them?I contacted my stealership and they said $12,000 for a rebuild engine installed.What is the warranty w/ the engine?
Frank
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