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ECU Tuning Opportunity
I came across this thread on Planet Porsche. I think its worth checking out for anyone who is in the market for upgrading their ECU.
http://www.planetporsche.net/cayman-boxster-modifications/37183-fvd-brombacher-introduction-introductory-planet-porsche-offer.html |
nice find.
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Nice gains, Anybody wanna go half? :D
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Haha doesn't work that way....
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Ha! wish it did! I'm thinking about it. The gains, for the price, are pretty impressive for my 01. I wonder what, if any, downside issues there might be? Of course their web site states that there aren't any but.. Heck there might not be any. I'm just not smart enough to figure out if there are. Like I said though, the upside seems pretty impressive.
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I doubt that the extra 10hp= -.2 off your 0-60.........
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Blink... you don't think the 10 hp would translate to .2 off 0-60 time? What increases do you think you could expect... if any? 10 hp is about a 4.5% increase in my 217 base hp. (Their web site claims 15 hp increase, and an almost 8% increase in torque....from 220 to 235 hp and 192 to 207 torque. This specifically for the 2.7 01 base. 15 hp is almost a 7% increase over the 217) Either way, I would think (with absolutely NO basis for the conclusion) that a .2 increase would be achievable. But I could be all wet too. Enlighten me please. If there's no discernable expected increase in performance then I think I'd be wasting my money?
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anyone take one for the team yet?
anyone purchase this yet for the boxster 2.7 non-s? I think I am pulling the trigger first thing tuesday unless I hear something extremely negative.
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Sounds like a good deal to me. Remember that a good ECU tune is more than just peak HP and torque. They can also give you a flatter torque curve and remap the throttle response, which can make the car more fun to drive.
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Hmmm.....if someone can provide a 3rd party dyno I'd drop the bling bling if the car really gains what they show from their dyno charts.
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"Hmmm.....if someone can provide a 3rd party dyno I'd drop the bling bling if the car really gains what they show from their dyno charts."
I am not familar with their tune software, but I would be suprised if you did not pick up 10+ hp, some torque, and a more responsive throttle mapping. Thats about what I got on the dyno after "chipping" my 2000 2.7L several years ago. Ed :) |
The "trigger was pulled". This was one of the best offers that I have come across in a very long time. I will post my results in the near future. :)
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I am very curious if the FVD setup has any real world performance gains on the 2.7L... I have a 2002 2.7L with Softronic, and to be honest... I can't say that I felt much of a difference with it at all.
The FVD software screenshots look almost the same as the softronic, but that could just be similar/same loading software, and different tuning files... Anyhow, if anyone gets any real feedback on the 2.7 with the FVD, I'd love to hear about it... |
"Was that from just an ECU tune or were the dyno runs done in conjunction with others mods as well?"
I did most of this work to my car when I first got it three years ago. I did at least half a dozen different dyno runs playing with different ECU tunes and exhaust system configurations. As I recall, I got about 15 hp and 10 ft lbs of torque with just the chip. The the torque curve was much better and the car noticably more responsive. With intake, chip and full cat-back exhaust I picked up around 25 hp. I am using a chip from Autothority Pitstop. As I understand it, their chips are based on the TTP products TTP. BTW, I just went out to their website and noticed the price of their chip, yikes, it was not that expensive when I got mine back when. Ed :cheers: |
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Wow, that is a great deal for $495
Very nice find Johnny D |
This offer is definately intriguing. I wish FVD would say how long the offer is good till.
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I just shared an email with an employee of FVD. Robert, We have been tuning Porsche's since 1983 in Germany. We have alway's designed our own software in house and 99% of our software is only for Porsche. We consult with Bosch Motorsports and Siemen's Motorsports in Germany directly to make sure that our software is as safe and powerful as possible. |
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http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...S/Carlos21.jpg I only wish I had dynoed my vehicle directly after flashing and not in conjunction with my flash, lwfw, and udp. In August I dynoed my vehicle without the new modifications (lwfw - ecu flash - udp) and I amassed an average of 226 rwhp comparable to that of yesterday's 244-247 rwhp. I am very impressed with the results and look forward to dealing with Rhonda and the rest of the FVD staff. |
Generally you're looking at what, $995 for a GIAC or similar ECU tune, right? Softronic is a bit cheaper at $895:
http://www.softronic.us/index.php Then there's also Upsolute, which I can't find an exact price on, but I think it's the cheapest at $700: http://www.upsolute.com/ Now FVD comes along with this offer at $500 (normally $995). That's a GREAT deal!!! Especially considering that FVD doesn't do anything half-assed. They're a top quality German tuner. Only problem is that you get "free" upgrades to the program, but only if you buy their stuff/parts and their parts are EXPENSIVE. Headers for my 986S go from about $1,500 for standard headers to $3,700 for headers with a cat. Still, if you just want the ECU upgrade this is a deal you can't beat! Kirk |
I received my new ECU file this morning from FVD. It will be a couple of days before I can actually upload it. I will post my results when I do. :D
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And to add into the mix of great deals, Softronic is advertising that Planet-9 members get their software AND Durametric software for $716!
http://www.planet-9.com/news-items/37627-2009-softronic-winter-special.html That's really a better deal than FVD since the Durametric software is around $350 by itself. Now I am scratching my head on which one will give me better tuning results! Decisions decisions... Can anybody give pros and cons between the two? I will probably go with the Softronic deal as I need the Durametric software to see what's up with my recent CEL. |
HA!! They wouldnt even answer my questions about the softronic in my car. They just said it was more indepth. I dont get it. I just have a 996 motor in my car with a stock porsche reflash. Its not like I put a v8 in the car or something.
√<You>: thanks < - Porsche Specialist>: I don't have a user account to see the price. and I have worked out that custom tunes are not part of the special however < - Porsche Specialist>: so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU <You>: 716 on a 3.4 996 < - Porsche Specialist>: yeah it is different price <You>: why is the tune different is my question? < - Porsche Specialist>: its not a simple obdii flash < - Porsche Specialist>: difference paremeters etc <You>: if it is the same dme and the same motor what are the variables? < - Porsche Specialist>: Jay, I am not able to answer the indepth tuning functions, I can tell you that the conversion or custom files are not on special |
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I have just a stock 99 boxster 2.5 manual. It has been reflashed with 996 software.
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Just spoke with Softronic and brought up your issue Jay as I was confused by the conversation you had with them and she said that your setup is not normal due to you converting your car to a 3.4 996 engine and that your car's base year is a '99. She said there were several variables involved with conversions and that their software harness is not even compatible with models prior to 2000. She also confirmed that conversion files are not on special. You might want to give them a call to get better clarification on your setup but it doesn't sound like your setup will work with what they are offering and requires something different.
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I was going to use a stock dme.. But then you get into key fobs and all that stuff... stock was better for me and a lot cheaper. I am talking to a few other companies also about this. FVD is still trying to get me on their product. I may have to go with it. It is just real expensive. 1500.00 I'm not trying to spend that much more on the car. I am just liking driving it. Just did the spark plugs and cleaned my bmc so well go from there and see how she feels. Thanks for your interest.
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That's deffinatly the way to go. If they were not so far from me I would go there. I have a tuner in Pa. I don't know what software you need to into the Porsche dme.
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Pulled the trigger on the Softronic deal although I don't think I would have gone wrong going with FVD. Just liked the fact that Softronic was in the US and I read on one of the boards the Scott was working with Flat6 on something (can't find the post or remember what the heck it was about!!). I'll post my my thoughts when I get the software.
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I uploaded my new FVD ecu software earlier today. Within the first few miles I could discern a marked improvement in my vehicle's throttle response, as well as an altogether more linear power band. I would encourage any forum member who is interested in improving their vehicle's performance with better software to "jump" on this great opportunity. Thanks FVD. :D
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