10-14-2009, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam
This offer is definately intriguing. I wish FVD would say how long the offer is good till.
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I believe they said 6 weeks if you scroll further down on that thread linked below.
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10-14-2009, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chaudanova
I am very curious if the FVD setup has any real world performance gains on the 2.7L... I have a 2002 2.7L with Softronic, and to be honest... I can't say that I felt much of a difference with it at all.
The FVD software screenshots look almost the same as the softronic, but that could just be similar/same loading software, and different tuning files...
Anyhow, if anyone gets any real feedback on the 2.7 with the FVD, I'd love to hear about it...
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FVD utilizes Softronic's interface.
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2003 Porsche Boxster S 3.2L l AASCO Lightweight Flywheel l FVD Brombacher ECU l FVD Brombacher 100 Cell Sport Catalytics l FVD Brombacher Sport Headers l GiroDisc 340mm FR Rotors l IPD Intake Plenum l Litronics l KW Variant 3 Coilovers l Porsche 997 75mm Throttle Body l Road Sport Supply Underdrive Pulley Kit l Sachs Stage 2 Racing Clutch Kit l TechArt Short Shift Kit l TechArt Power Flow Kit l TechArt Sport Exhaust.
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10-14-2009, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cartel
FVD utilizes Softronic's interface.
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Are you sure about that?
I just shared an email with an employee of FVD.
Robert,
We have been tuning Porsche's since 1983 in Germany. We have alway's designed our own software in house and 99% of our software is only for Porsche. We consult with Bosch Motorsports and Siemen's Motorsports in Germany directly to make sure that our software is as safe and powerful as possible.
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-99' Zenith Blue 5-spd...didn't agree with a center divider on the freeway
-01' S Orient Red Metallic 6-spd...money pit...sold to buy a house
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10-14-2009, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by blinkwatt
Are you sure about that?
I just shared an email with an employee of FVD.
Robert,
We have been tuning Porsche's since 1983 in Germany. We have alway's designed our own software in house and 99% of our software is only for Porsche. We consult with Bosch Motorsports and Siemen's Motorsports in Germany directly to make sure that our software is as safe and powerful as possible.
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I think what Cartel was trying to say, is that FVD uses a similar OBD cable/interface as Softronic does, however, they are in no way related. All of FVD's programs are exclusive , proprietary software.
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10-14-2009, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
I think what Cartel was trying to say, is that FVD uses a similar OBD cable/interface as Softronic does, however, they are in no way related. All of FVD's programs are exclusive , proprietary software.
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Precisely. Thank you for the clarification.
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2003 Porsche Boxster S 3.2L l AASCO Lightweight Flywheel l FVD Brombacher ECU l FVD Brombacher 100 Cell Sport Catalytics l FVD Brombacher Sport Headers l GiroDisc 340mm FR Rotors l IPD Intake Plenum l Litronics l KW Variant 3 Coilovers l Porsche 997 75mm Throttle Body l Road Sport Supply Underdrive Pulley Kit l Sachs Stage 2 Racing Clutch Kit l TechArt Short Shift Kit l TechArt Power Flow Kit l TechArt Sport Exhaust.
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10-23-2009, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Cartel
Precisely. Thank you for the clarification.
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Absolutely correct, the interface is the same but the software is 100% FVD Brombacher.
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10-23-2009, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhonda@fvd
Absolutely correct, the interface is the same but the software is 100% FVD Brombacher.
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Rhonda I am glad to see you made it over here! Welcome and again many a thanks for everything. Like I stated on the phone with you earlier today, I only wish my vehicle was not already flashed or I would have been all over this give away of an opportunity. Below I am including a sheet of my test runs yesterday which can be found in my thread I created yesterday, but here it is as a point of reference.
I only wish I had dynoed my vehicle directly after flashing and not in conjunction with my flash, lwfw, and udp. In August I dynoed my vehicle without the new modifications (lwfw - ecu flash - udp) and I amassed an average of 226 rwhp comparable to that of yesterday's 244-247 rwhp. I am very impressed with the results and look forward to dealing with Rhonda and the rest of the FVD staff.
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2003 Porsche Boxster S 3.2L l AASCO Lightweight Flywheel l FVD Brombacher ECU l FVD Brombacher 100 Cell Sport Catalytics l FVD Brombacher Sport Headers l GiroDisc 340mm FR Rotors l IPD Intake Plenum l Litronics l KW Variant 3 Coilovers l Porsche 997 75mm Throttle Body l Road Sport Supply Underdrive Pulley Kit l Sachs Stage 2 Racing Clutch Kit l TechArt Short Shift Kit l TechArt Power Flow Kit l TechArt Sport Exhaust.
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10-26-2009, 09:06 AM
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Generally you're looking at what, $995 for a GIAC or similar ECU tune, right? Softronic is a bit cheaper at $895:
http://www.softronic.us/index.php
Then there's also Upsolute, which I can't find an exact price on, but I think it's the cheapest at $700:
http://www.upsolute.com/
Now FVD comes along with this offer at $500 (normally $995). That's a GREAT deal!!! Especially considering that FVD doesn't do anything half-assed. They're a top quality German tuner. Only problem is that you get "free" upgrades to the program, but only if you buy their stuff/parts and their parts are EXPENSIVE. Headers for my 986S go from about $1,500 for standard headers to $3,700 for headers with a cat. Still, if you just want the ECU upgrade this is a deal you can't beat!
Kirk
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10-27-2009, 08:20 AM
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I received my new ECU file this morning from FVD. It will be a couple of days before I can actually upload it. I will post my results when I do. 
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10-28-2009, 10:08 AM
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And to add into the mix of great deals, Softronic is advertising that Planet-9 members get their software AND Durametric software for $716!
http://www.planet-9.com/news-items/37627-2009-softronic-winter-special.html
That's really a better deal than FVD since the Durametric software is around $350 by itself.
Now I am scratching my head on which one will give me better tuning results! Decisions decisions...
Can anybody give pros and cons between the two?
I will probably go with the Softronic deal as I need the Durametric software to see what's up with my recent CEL.
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10-28-2009, 11:14 AM
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HA!! They wouldnt even answer my questions about the softronic in my car. They just said it was more indepth. I dont get it. I just have a 996 motor in my car with a stock porsche reflash. Its not like I put a v8 in the car or something.
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< - Porsche Specialist>: I don't have a user account to see the price. and I have worked out that custom tunes are not part of the special however
< - Porsche Specialist>: so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU
: 716 on a 3.4 996
< - Porsche Specialist>: yeah it is different price
: why is the tune different is my question?
< - Porsche Specialist>: its not a simple obdii flash
< - Porsche Specialist>: difference paremeters etc
: if it is the same dme and the same motor what are the variables?
< - Porsche Specialist>: Jay, I am not able to answer the indepth tuning functions, I can tell you that the conversion or custom files are not on special
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996 3.4 engine with 2.7 986 5speed transmission
Ebay Headers, Fabspeed high flow cats, JIC Cross, IPD Plenum, H&R Coilovers, B&M Short Shifter, AEM Uego Gauge Type Analog, Apexi S-AFC Select, 987 air box, Litronics, 2000 Tails and side markers, painted center console, 18" 987 S-Wheels, GT3 Front bumper with splitter.
Last edited by JAAY; 10-28-2009 at 03:09 PM.
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10-28-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JAAY
HA!! They wouldnt even answer my questions about the softronic in my car. They just said it was more indepth. I dont get it. I just have a 996 motor in my car with a stock porsche reflash. Its not like I put a v8 in the car or something.
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< - Porsche Specialist>: I don't have a user account to see the price. Scott and I have worked out that custom tunes are not part of the special however
< - Porsche Specialist>: so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU
: 716 on a 3.4 996
< - Porsche Specialist>: yeah it is different price
: why is the tune different is my question?
< - Porsche Specialist>: its not a simple obdii flash
< - Porsche Specialist>: difference paremeters etc
: if it is the same dme and the same motor what are the variables?
< - Porsche Specialist>: Jay, I am not able to answer the indepth tuning functions, I can tell you that the conversion or custom files are not on special
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Which DME do you have?
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10-28-2009, 12:03 PM
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I have just a stock 99 boxster 2.5 manual. It has been reflashed with 996 software.
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996 3.4 engine with 2.7 986 5speed transmission
Ebay Headers, Fabspeed high flow cats, JIC Cross, IPD Plenum, H&R Coilovers, B&M Short Shifter, AEM Uego Gauge Type Analog, Apexi S-AFC Select, 987 air box, Litronics, 2000 Tails and side markers, painted center console, 18" 987 S-Wheels, GT3 Front bumper with splitter.
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10-28-2009, 12:15 PM
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Porscheectomy
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Originally Posted by JAAY
I have just a stock 99 boxster 2.5 manual. It has been reflashed with 996 software.
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I guess I can see their point. They probably have to go through some extra steps to work with your set-up. If you were using a 996 DME, then I would totally agree with you.
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10-28-2009, 12:25 PM
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Just spoke with Softronic and brought up your issue Jay as I was confused by the conversation you had with them and she said that your setup is not normal due to you converting your car to a 3.4 996 engine and that your car's base year is a '99. She said there were several variables involved with conversions and that their software harness is not even compatible with models prior to 2000. She also confirmed that conversion files are not on special. You might want to give them a call to get better clarification on your setup but it doesn't sound like your setup will work with what they are offering and requires something different.
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10-28-2009, 12:25 PM
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I was going to use a stock dme.. But then you get into key fobs and all that stuff... stock was better for me and a lot cheaper. I am talking to a few other companies also about this. FVD is still trying to get me on their product. I may have to go with it. It is just real expensive. 1500.00 I'm not trying to spend that much more on the car. I am just liking driving it. Just did the spark plugs and cleaned my bmc so well go from there and see how she feels. Thanks for your interest.
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996 3.4 engine with 2.7 986 5speed transmission
Ebay Headers, Fabspeed high flow cats, JIC Cross, IPD Plenum, H&R Coilovers, B&M Short Shifter, AEM Uego Gauge Type Analog, Apexi S-AFC Select, 987 air box, Litronics, 2000 Tails and side markers, painted center console, 18" 987 S-Wheels, GT3 Front bumper with splitter.
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10-29-2009, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JAAY
< - Porsche Specialist>: so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU
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I would have a problem with that. You should have it tuned on a dyno IMO. I'm looking at EVOMsit. I don't have it yet. See what you think. should be a dyno there for your car plus Vids.
http://www.evomsit.com/Porsche_MAIN.htm
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10-29-2009, 04:47 AM
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That's deffinatly the way to go. If they were not so far from me I would go there. I have a tuner in Pa. I don't know what software you need to into the Porsche dme.
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996 3.4 engine with 2.7 986 5speed transmission
Ebay Headers, Fabspeed high flow cats, JIC Cross, IPD Plenum, H&R Coilovers, B&M Short Shifter, AEM Uego Gauge Type Analog, Apexi S-AFC Select, 987 air box, Litronics, 2000 Tails and side markers, painted center console, 18" 987 S-Wheels, GT3 Front bumper with splitter.
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10-29-2009, 09:33 AM
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Pulled the trigger on the Softronic deal although I don't think I would have gone wrong going with FVD. Just liked the fact that Softronic was in the US and I read on one of the boards the Scott was working with Flat6 on something (can't find the post or remember what the heck it was about!!). I'll post my my thoughts when I get the software.
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10-29-2009, 05:14 PM
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I uploaded my new FVD ecu software earlier today. Within the first few miles I could discern a marked improvement in my vehicle's throttle response, as well as an altogether more linear power band. I would encourage any forum member who is interested in improving their vehicle's performance with better software to "jump" on this great opportunity. Thanks FVD.
Last edited by Johnny Danger; 10-29-2009 at 05:17 PM.
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