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Old 09-06-2008, 07:29 PM   #1
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What are the warranties on these engines?

MSRP for each?

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Old 09-06-2008, 07:49 PM   #2
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Bruce,
Thanks for the questions. On a separate note, I have PMed the admin crew about sponsoring/advertising on your site, but haven't gotten any replies.

The prices for the engines can be found at this link, on the online store.
http://www.flat6innovations.com/shop/home.php?cat=278
We are working to finish all the aspects of the store, but right now the engines are the only items with pricing.

ALL engines get our updated bearings with PC2 coatings, as well as upgraded cylinders and pistons, even bone stock rebuilds. This is to avoid the slightest chance of future failures.

Warranty is dependent upon the engine that is to be produced. The stock engines we update will have a 15 month/ 15,000 mile warranty and thats better than Porsche.

Performance engines will have warrantees that can be purchased separately from the engine and these are variable based upon the engine's output and application. No engine used for any sort of competition will have a warranty period. (Risk is mandatory in competition)

All engines that are to be covered by our warranty MUST be installed, tuned and quantified by our team to ensure the sub-systems and installation are done to our standards.

I'll be happy to answer any questions or field any comments about our program.. Feel free to post them here, or email/ PM me.

I look forward to supporting the 986 Forum!
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Old 09-07-2008, 06:17 AM   #3
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Thanks for the update.

Richard Kwei will be contacting you on the sponsorship. We would be happy to have you here.

Best of luck

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Old 09-07-2008, 08:05 AM   #4
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It's a shame finding extra hp is so expensive for Boxster owners. $15,000 + installation and labor fees for 60 hp is Ferrari and a Lambo territory.
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It's a shame finding extra hp is so expensive for Boxster owners. $15,000 + installation and labor fees for 60 hp is Ferrari and a Lambo territory.
It goes with the Porsche territory. From the 50s until today. If you have a Porsche you pay to play.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:59 PM   #6
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If you have a Porsche you pay to play.
I agree, but from a hp upgrade standpoint it's doubtful Boxster owners will drop $20,000 on an underwhelming hp bump. I hope I'm wrong and Jake makes out well. I guess time will tell if there is a market out there.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:38 AM   #7
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A question for Jake

I've asked some of this before but it didn't get answered.

1.

My understanding is that engine designers produce dozens of sample engines and put them through simulations and real world trials involving millions of miles and still design and production defects exist.

You have mentioned a single trial mule car.

Can you tell us what testing you have done on the various configurations of engines you are offering? For example...has the 3.2 to 3.6 engine been specifically tested and how many and how much? Ditto the 2.7 to 3.0?

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Does use of the engine for a drivers education event (not racing, just driving fast on a track) void the warranty? Auto-X?

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Have you done anything to the sump? Deeper? Baffle changes?

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Do you have any locations yet for authorized installers since that seems to be a requirement for the warranty?

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And lastly, emission issues in a non-California state are a concern since my state does access the OBDII port and talks to their central computer in the state capitol before OKing the emissions every year. Has there been any emissions testings of the engines and what do you know about the non-CA legality?

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Thanks for the postings and for the development work. Your approach is a valuable addition to the options available to those few who have problems or those many investigating and upgrade.
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Old 09-11-2008, 05:43 AM   #8
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The X51 package can be replicated :-)
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:45 AM   #9
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The X51 package can be replicated :-)
I know I want your 3.6L conversion with X51 3.6 heads and intake runners

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Old 09-11-2008, 03:17 PM   #10
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Hey Patrick,

You may want to spec the more aggressive profile of the X51 cams too.

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Old 10-28-2008, 08:00 PM   #11
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we have several different cam grinds available, dependant upon your application and inended power band and rev range.

What must be established first is what you will be doing with the engine. Is it a torque beast or a high revver? What are you willing to do to the heads? What ECU manipulation are you willing to do? drive-ability comncerns?

Here we have no generic parts, everything is application specific.
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3.6 with the IA supercharger running 4.5-5 lbs of boost. I only drive the car for fun on and off the track and it has never been nor will ever be a DD. I am willing to do the valve springs and the cams while the motor is out and my guy is willing to flow the heads but said more then likely not needed. I know that the 3.8 X51 has larger valves thus the guides would need to be increased but again my tech said it is not really needed. I already have the AASCO ligt weight flywheel for it and the tuning like my current package will be a one off. The current tune was done by Garret of GIAC. Stephen Kasper of IA will have the next one done. I am looking 400+ or - on pump of reliable HP.

I am being told that I can continue to run my 7.2 system with the 7.8 motor through the magic of tuning, but I am not holding my breath on that one.
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