08-08-2008, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dmcutter
it does seem a little juvenile on a car like the Box
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No it's plain dumb.
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08-08-2008, 04:06 PM
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Hey, thanks. That's just the kind of insightful, technically competent and thorough explanation I was seeking.
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08-08-2008, 04:13 PM
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I don't think I'd do it to my boxster because it could blow the engine.
It could blow any engine in any car, but replacing the motor might cost $2k or less for a rebuilt one... whereas a rebuilt boxster engine is $7k plus installation, right?
It seems to come down to risk.
I do wish someone would do it though.... and it should be YOU.
Get busy and come back to this thread with pix and video of it in action. We have a need for speed! :dance:
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08-09-2008, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour
I do wish someone would do it though....
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I will be working on it within the next month or so
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08-08-2008, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ekam
No it's plain dumb.
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And that's why I fully support your decision to do it. Ha!
I too have always wondered about juicing a Boxster. Most people, I find, have little to no experience with Nitrous. That's why you hear cries of caution when approaching the idea. They don't know much about it or have had little experience with it. (People fear what they don't know -who said that, Batman?)
In my several years of participating on this forum, I have never come across an individual who has juiced their Boxster. You'd be a pioneer!
I think it's something I would do to mine. I'd go SMALL though, nothing more than a 50 shot. I don't think I'd trust a $500 job though. I'd track down a Nitrous expert and some one that knows Porsches. Ask the right people the right question.
Anyway, go for it and post your results. You shall be the 986forum guinea pig!
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08-08-2008, 05:36 PM
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"I don't think I'd do it to my boxster because it could blow the engine."
But WHY could it blow the engine? What does that mean? The crux of my original post was, what are the technical limitations of the engine, what would the failure mechanism be?
Sorry Jeph, I haven't bought into this idea yet-I just said my curiosity was piqued. After all, Boxster drivers typically say that on the track they can carry equal or better speed through the corners compared to 911s, but they lose time in the straightaways, which is where the juice could be used.
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08-08-2008, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmcutter
"I don't think I'd do it to my boxster because it could blow the engine."
But WHY could it blow the engine? What does that mean? The crux of my original post was, what are the technical limitations of the engine, what would the failure mechanism be?
Sorry Jeph, I haven't bought into this idea yet-I just said my curiosity was piqued. After all, Boxster drivers typically say that on the track they can carry equal or better speed through the corners compared to 911s, but they lose time in the straightaways, which is where the juice could be used.
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But would it be practical to use NOS on a track when you're doing multiple laps? I thought NOS was more for single sprint runs for 1/4 mile races and such.
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08-08-2008, 07:08 PM
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In the early days of being "on the bottle", novice individuals gave the concept a black eye by not properly metering the squirt. To much gas tends to get a little to hot and things that are suppose to move will become welded together.
Current systems are pretty much full proof. They come with jets that meter the correct amount of fuel and fog and solenoids that will shut down if pressures aren't enough. I wouldn't worry much about blowing the motor, then again I wouldn't go putting in a 300 shot and expect my bottom end to hold together unless I strengthen it. Any car should be safe up to a 150 squeeze.
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08-08-2008, 07:22 PM
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Mr. Cutter, that settles it. You have no excuses.
We want to see a juiced boxster ASAP and it should be your car!
(See how easily I appointed you instead of me?)
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08-08-2008, 10:12 PM
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Spraying a car that is used reguarly just does not sound like a good idea. I have heard some horror stories about using nitrous (one involves the crank coming out of the block).
What I do know about nitrous is that it adds oxygen to the fuel/air (for those that know chem N02) mixture which creates a more intense explosion plus the release of the bonds from the no2 mixture. This in turn creates power (which we all love). But it effects the parts of the engine. I assume its like putting a turbo in that adds the same amount of power. The seals get worn, the bottom end gets tested and the engine gets worn out because when it comes down to it the engine isn't meant to take much more power than what it puts out.
I think asking, "what happens to the engine when you spray it," is like asking the same question for turbos/super chargers. The engine isn't meant to put out 50% more power than it does normally. If it was, it would probably put it out stock.
As much as I would love to see someone spray their car, I would cringe just as much. If you want more power just get a turbo. Its more expensive, but I would argue that its not as bad and you don't have to refill a tank. Or if you have the $$ just get a bigger motor.
I personally have no need for more power. I raced an m3 today on the highway and I kept up with him from 65 to 130 (neck and neck). Granted he would dust me from a stand still, but I could have bought an m3 instead if I cared that much about traffic light racing....
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