Short Shift Kit Advice?

[23109VC]

so is this a part I get at the dealer b/c it's an OEM porsche part? or is this an aftermarket part? I'm confused....

I drove a 911 that had a short shift kit and it felt hard and notchy to shift. i hated it. yeah the throws were short but it felt like $hit.

i want stock feel for smoothness, just a short throw. whatever you are refering to here sounds like what i want.

where do i get it?
can i install this myself - is it relatively easy or do i need a dealer/mechanic to put it in?

this is just the shift parts of ra stock 997?

Originally Posted by CT986S

I did just install the 997 (010 series) shifter over the weekend. All I can say is WOW. After all the short shift kits I tried in Miatadom I was leery of getting something "notchy", but this is amazing. By my measurement w/out the shiftknob the 1 - 2 shift on my S has gone down 1 inch. Doesn't sound like much, but feels amazing because shifting is much more precise, and there is no notchiness whatsoever.

Thanks Blink, sorry it took so long.
Kevin

PS. I did much research on the install, and getting the shiftknob off is the hard part. I went right for the brute force and ignorance method - top-down stand with one foot on each side of the console and pull straight up. If it doesn't come off -pull harder .
It came off on the second try for me with this method.

[chaudanova]

I've got a brand new B&M Short Shift Kit available for sale if you, or anyone else is interested... PM me!

[23109VC]

what is the difference between the 997 series 010 SSK that is mentioned a few posts above, vs the B&M or Schnell or other aftermarket kits?

I do NOT want it all stiff feeling.

I just want the throw shorter and I want the feel of the shifter to be more precise. right now the shifter is loose/sloppy feeling and the throw is too long.

any suggestions?

is this an easy DIY project? if I wuss out and paid a dealer or shop to do this, what is a FAIR (not stealership) price?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 23109VC

what is the difference between the 997 series 010 SSK that is mentioned a few posts above, vs the B&M or Schnell or other aftermarket kits?

I do NOT want it all stiff feeling.

I just want the throw shorter and I want the feel of the shifter to be more precise. right now the shifter is loose/sloppy feeling and the throw is too long.

any suggestions?

is this an easy DIY project? if I wuss out and paid a dealer or shop to do this, what is a FAIR (not stealership) price?

I can tell you now all the aftermarket SSK's are notchy and they increase shift effort. The install is not that hard if you have a few simple tools and you're fairly mechanical. I've never tried the 997 shifter, but it sounds like the way to go.

[ekam]

Originally Posted by 23109VC

what is the difference between the 997 series 010 SSK that is mentioned a few posts above, vs the B&M or Schnell or other aftermarket kits?

I do NOT want it all stiff feeling.

I just want the throw shorter and I want the feel of the shifter to be more precise. right now the shifter is loose/sloppy feeling and the throw is too long.

any suggestions?

is this an easy DIY project? if I wuss out and paid a dealer or shop to do this, what is a FAIR (not stealership) price?

Unlike all the SSK out there, the 9x7 shifter assembly is literally a drop-in item. I did it in little over an hour following the DIY instruction and I was trying to be overly cautious not to break/scratch anything.

http://www.turbo911.com/showthread.php?t=282

[sb01box]

if my question is redundant, please accept my apology.
I'm considering upgrading the shifter unit of my 01 boxster mainly to replace the plastic fastener of the main shift cable with aluminum/steel unit (EVO or Schnell). at the same time change to a shorter throw.
in reading discussion threeads here and at other forums, it seems that most aftermarket units just extend the bottom part of the shifter rather than 997 short shifter which moves the pivot point higher while maintaining the shifter to linkage position inline with the cable. to me, it seems that the 997 short shifter is a better solution and prevents unwanted bending of the cable and possible drag on the tray and carpet under the shifter. (if in error forgive me, no real hands on, just reading and pictures)
if my assumption is correct then my question is "why the aftermarket mfgs do not duplicate the mechanical dimension of the 997 ss?" 25% versus 35% reduction?
thanks in advance
tad

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by sb01box

if my question is redundant, please accept my apology.
I'm considering upgrading the shifter unit of my 01 boxster mainly to replace the plastic fastener of the main shift cable with aluminum/steel unit (EVO or Schnell). at the same time change to a shorter throw.
in reading discussion threeads here and at other forums, it seems that most aftermarket units just extend the bottom part of the shifter rather than 997 short shifter which moves the pivot point higher while maintaining the shifter to linkage position inline with the cable. to me, it seems that the 997 short shifter is a better solution and prevents unwanted bending of the cable and possible drag on the tray and carpet under the shifter. (if in error forgive me, no real hands on, just reading and pictures)
if my assumption is correct then my question is "why the aftermarket mfgs do not duplicate the mechanical dimension of the 997 ss?" 25% versus 35% reduction?
thanks in advance
tad

All short shifters other than the "swift shift kit" from Evolution motorsports move the pivot point up. To the best that I can tell, the B&M, clones, and 9x6 factory short shifters all have the same geometry. The Schnell is a little shorter on the linkage side and probably doesn't move the fulcrum as far from stock as the others. None have problems with the pivot point getting too close to the floor.

From the pictures I've seen, the factory 9x7 short shifter also uses the same geometry as B&M, but uses a plastic housing rather than the aluminum 9x6 version.

Many of us have discovered that the standard shifter noted earlier provided on most 9x7 cars provides a nice, shorter shift without excessive notchiness and is the preferred alternative to the standard 9x6 shifter. This is not a short shift kit, it is standard on most of the newer models. This part also includes the shifter housing and the plastic cable ends, so you wouldn't need to buy the aluminum parts you talked about.

[sb01box]

blue2000s,
thanks much for the clarification.
looking down this thread, i see reference to 997 (010) but nowhere can i find the full part number for the standard 997 shifter assembly.
Elsewhere in the www, i found reference to a part number 997-424-983-00.
is this the part number for the standard 9x7 shifter that will reduce the throw by about 20+% over '01 986 boxster?

lastly, any thought about using EVO roller bearing end caps for the shifter piviot?

again, thanks much
tad

[Stroked & Blown]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

All short shifters other than the "swift shift kit" from Evolution motorsports move the pivot point up. To the best that I can tell, the B&M, clones, and 9x6 factory short shifters all have the same geometry. The Schnell is a little shorter on the linkage side and probably doesn't move the fulcrum as far from stock as the others. None have problems with the pivot point getting too close to the floor.

From the pictures I've seen, the factory 9x7 short shifter also uses the same geometry as B&M, but uses a plastic housing rather than the aluminum 9x6 version.

Many of us have discovered that the standard shifter noted earlier provided on most 9x7 cars provides a nice, shorter shift without excessive notchiness and is the preferred alternative to the standard 9x6 shifter. This is not a short shift kit, it is standard on most of the newer models. This part also includes the shifter housing and the plastic cable ends, so you wouldn't need to buy the aluminum parts you talked about.

So, does that mean a 9x7 assembly with a 986 B&M SSK is actually the same throw as installing the B&M on the stock assy? i.e. Most of the benefit to the 9x7 is in the teal colored plastic part which is replaced with the B&M(?).

Under that assumption, to get an even shorter throw with the 9x7 the only option is the Evo extension? Does the Evo ShiftLink shorten up shifts, or just make them more precise?