11-21-2007, 02:53 PM
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Here are a few pictures of my intercooler install.
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11-21-2007, 05:05 PM
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Oops, forgot to point out that Gary's install is an air-air intercooler and the TTP is an air-water system, so no air goes through the trunk, just water lines.
The TTP 3.4 twin turbo does replace internals, but I don't think the 3.2 does...
http://www.t-t-p.de/english/986.php
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11-21-2007, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by efahl
Oops, forgot to point out that Gary's install is an air-air intercooler and the TTP is an air-water system, so no air goes through the trunk, just water lines.
The TTP 3.4 twin turbo does replace internals, but I don't think the 3.2 does...
http://www.t-t-p.de/english/986.php
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It seems like water/air would is a nice solution, but I don’t get what TTP has going on in what would be the trunk. It appears to be the heat exchanger…but with only one tube??
Ideas?
Thanx PK
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11-21-2007, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary in BR
Here are a few pictures of my intercooler install.
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Hi Gary, Glad you showed up
-Is there a scoop of some sort that scoops air through that intercooler? If not, how does it have a cooling effect so close to the warm trans.
-I saw one of those pumps somewhere but not clear on what it does?
-Does the length of those tubes to the intercooler rob you of some charge flow? Or is that just “tuned in” or compensated for systemically.
Thanks,
PK
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11-23-2007, 10:39 AM
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-Is there a scoop of some sort that scoops air through that intercooler? If not, how does it have a cooling effect so close to the warm trans.
There are no scoops on the intercooler, I agree it makes sense to put scoops on it but Turbowerks did significant testing and did not see as need for the scoops.
-I saw one of those pumps somewhere but not clear on what it does?
The pump is the for the oil as Eric mentions. (thanks eric you explained it allot better than I could have.)
-Does the length of those tubes to the intercooler rob you of some charge flow? Or is that just “tuned in” or compensated for systemically.
I am not 100% sure but I do know the system is producing 6lb of boost at the throttle body. So I would assume that if there is a pressure loss the turbos are producing enough to ensure the boost at the engine is correct.
Thanks,
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11-23-2007, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary in BR
-Is there a scoop of some sort that scoops air through that intercooler? If not, how does it have a cooling effect so close to the warm trans.
I am not 100% sure but I do know the system is producing 6lb of boost at the throttle body. So I would assume that if there is a pressure loss the turbos are producing enough to ensure the boost at the engine is correct.
Thanks,
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Hello Gary,
I realize yours is quite a different animal than mine and I’m sure it’s designed with holistic approach, nothing extraneous. But yours is the only model I have to go by with respect to the IC.
Do you know the approximate size of you IC? Inlet and outlet diameters (or hose diameter would be good enough
Thanks a ton, PK
P,S. I asume your setup has a pigigy back AIC of some sort, do you know what it is?
Last edited by pk2; 11-23-2007 at 11:41 PM.
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11-24-2007, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary in BR
I'll get under there and measure the inlet and outlet today. And the 3 dimensions of the IC...I hope any or some of this helps, and I will post the measurements sometime today.
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Hey Gary,
Thanks, no need to be super precise, ballpark is fine. The more I learn about IC’s the more complicated it gets, should be a no-brainer. I do think you do indeed need more power with a new ecu.
I’ve thought a bit about methanol/water injection & nitrous (great coolant), but I think I’m more inclined towards solutions that are seamless and permanent. Mixing up my own 93-95 oct. brew out of pump and race fuel is enough for me I think.
Thanks again, PK
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12-06-2007, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary in BR
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-Does the length of those tubes to the intercooler rob you of some charge flow? Or is that just “tuned in” or compensated for systemically.
I am not 100% sure but I do know the system is producing 6lb of boost at the throttle body. So I would assume that if there is a pressure loss the turbos are producing enough to ensure the boost at the engine is correct.
Thanks,
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Hey Gary,
I got the dope on that one and it has a term that evades me. But basically your compressing all the air from the TT to the throttle body. The more volume in tubes, IC, etc the longer it takes to compress and get the pressure where you want it. in short, more lag. Weather its noticeable or not, I guess it depends.
(Think of blowing a bike tire up to 40 psi compared to blowing up a car tire to the same 40 psi, car tire more volume, more time to get there.)
Regards, PK
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