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particlewave 04-25-2017 08:48 PM

Key Transmitter Repair (new switch didn't fix it?)
 
I recently repaired a couple of key transmitters for Martin (Fintro11), so thought I'd pass the info along.

Symptoms:
Both transmitters LEDs would flash when buttons were pressed, but either no response from car or intermittent function.
Battery would quickly drain.

Failure:
Flexing of the circuit board from years of button presses caused broken solder joints on the rear of the board.

Repair:
First test all buttons with a DVM set to continuity and confirm function.
De-solder and remove battery holder from the rear of the board.
Inspect all solder joints for breaks (will require 30x magnification inspection scope or equivalent - cannot be seen with the naked eye).

Reflow all solder joints with flux, a fine tip iron and scope. A very steady hand and some basic knowledge of electronics soldering is required. Too much heat or flux will destroy components and/or circuit traces and stray solder will cause shorts.
After soldering is finished, gently clean the boards with isopropyl alcohol and a soft bristle brush to remove any debris and excess flux, then examine all joints under magnification to ensure proper repair.

Reattach battery holder. Enjoy your working key transmitter. :)

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This picture shows some broken solder joints under 30x magnification.

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Fintro11 04-25-2017 11:04 PM

Can't thank Charles enough! I paid the dealer $300 + for a third key. Charles was able to fix my two paper weights!

Deserion 04-27-2017 03:06 AM

Looks like I may be sending mine off to you soon, PW. :) When mine doesn't "work", I can pull the upper half off and press on the battery holder to make it complete. Knew what the issue is, but my soldering skills are atrocious.

algiorda 04-27-2017 03:36 AM

Great work Charles!! Thanks for the write up! (I also saw this on the Facebook page and meant to comment)

Question: I have a 2004 BSSE, Is it possible to remove the electronics and the key and replace the outer case with a new one? My buttons look and feel mangled and thought a new case would freshen them up nicely.

jakeru 04-27-2017 08:23 AM

I've done this fix on my 2001 3-button key fob. It made the remote feature work reliably. Before I did it, the led light would flash reliably, but the actual remote unlocking wireless communication would not happen reliably.

So, this fix gave the perception of the remote getting a longer range, although I think it always had a healthy range, but just was unreliable intermittent in operation. (Therefore, for anyone who think their remote has shorter range than it should, ought to actually look into doing this solder reflowing fix!)

The key fob had worn out button switches, which required pressing hard to get them to work. (Car was sold and delivered to me by previous owner in this condition). The high force required to press the buttons may have damaged the solder joints. (I had tried replacing the button switches with new ones before I moved on to reflowing the solder joints.)

I have a second key fob that has a "lazy blinking LED" that still won't work wirelessly, even after replacing the buttons *and* reflowing the solder joints. When button is pressed, the led light flashes more slowly than on the key fob that works.

particlewave 04-28-2017 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by algiorda (Post 535212)
Great work Charles!! Thanks for the write up! (I also saw this on the Facebook page and meant to comment)

Question: I have a 2004 BSSE, Is it possible to remove the electronics and the key and replace the outer case with a new one? My buttons look and feel mangled and thought a new case would freshen them up nicely.

Thanks :)

You can definitely transfer everything over to a new case (blade, transmitter circuit board and transponder pill).
Avoid the cheap eBay cases, though. The buttons are typically hard plastic and very hard to push. Best to shell out the extra money for OEM or a known good source. ;)

marcomarco 04-30-2017 01:42 PM

Just bought a 2005 triptronic Boxster (only one Key)
 
Hello All
Any thoughts on where I can get a second key for the used 2005 triptronic Boxster I just bought from a So Cal Porsche dealership on Friday...It came with one key which split open the day after I bought the car....this weekend after driving it only 40 miles it started spitting out clean/clear oil underneath the car (teaspoon size) needless to say I'm taking it back to the dealership service dept. on Monday....
But your thoughts on sources for keys would be welcomed as this is my first Porsche and I'm a bit in shock right now!
Thanks

Fintro11 05-01-2017 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcomarco (Post 535596)
Hello All
Any thoughts on where I can get a second key for the used 2005 triptronic Boxster I just bought from a So Cal Porsche dealership on Friday...It came with one key which split open the day after I bought the car....this weekend after driving it only 40 miles it started spitting out clean/clear oil underneath the car (teaspoon size) needless to say I'm taking it back to the dealership service dept. on Monday....
But your thoughts on sources for keys would be welcomed as this is my first Porsche and I'm a bit in shock right now!
Thanks

The dealer

TeamOxford 05-08-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 535119)
I recently repaired a couple of key transmitters for Martin (Fintro11), so thought I'd pass the info along.

Symptoms:
Both transmitters LEDs would flash when buttons were pressed, but either no response from car or intermittent function.
Battery would quickly drain.

Failure:
Flexing of the circuit board from years of button presses caused broken solder joints on the rear of the board.

Repair:
First test all buttons with a DVM set to continuity and confirm function.
De-solder and remove battery holder from the rear of the board.
Inspect all solder joints for breaks (will require 30x magnification inspection scope or equivalent - cannot be seen with the naked eye).

Reflow all solder joints with flux, a fine tip iron and scope. A very steady hand and some basic knowledge of electronics soldering is required. Too much heat or flux will destroy components and/or circuit traces and stray solder will cause shorts.
After soldering is finished, gently clean the boards with isopropyl alcohol and a soft bristle brush to remove any debris and excess flux, then examine all joints under magnification to ensure proper repair.

Reattach battery holder. Enjoy your working key transmitter. :)

Alternatively, you can send them to me for repair at a cost of $30 each, flat rate for U.S. (add $10 for international shipping).
PM or email me at aerohawk13@hotmail.com

I sent one of my keys out to Charles less than a week ago and received my repaired key transmitter from Charles today. I must say I was impressed with the workmanship. Also, the functionality of the unit. It works as new.

Charles repaired bad solder joints (as expected), a broken battery connection at the board and replaced a missing capacitor. He also replaced both button switches.

I've already sent my second key in for repair. IMHO the service is well worth the $30.00. Certainly beats buying a new key.

Just sayin'............

TO

Porsche9 08-18-2017 11:27 PM

I will also give props to Particlewave for fixing my transmitter. Very reasonable price and quick turnaround. I would highly recommend him if you have a key transmitterin need of repair.

Calmg0d 10-03-2017 11:53 AM

How long
 
This is a fantastic opportunity as I am having the same issues. however, i only have one key and my 2000 S is my daily driver. I'm in Florida, and no pressure or anythign, but how long turn-around time is to be expected.

I was not looking forward to spending $300 for a new key so this opportunity is seriously awesome.
Cheers.
Thom :cheers:

particlewave 10-09-2017 09:43 PM

Thom,

Sorry. I just saw this. You can keep your key so you can still drive. I'd only need the circuit board.
PM me for details. ;)

all986S 11-21-2017 10:33 PM

Hey particlewave,

I was wondering if you might be able to do the switch repair on my Boxster key?

Thanks!

KRAM36 11-22-2017 06:34 PM

Have you thought about trying to reflow the solder using your oven as we do with graphics cards?

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all986S 12-10-2017 10:34 AM

No I haven't, but it may be worth a shot because one key circuit board is totally shot.

particlewave 12-10-2017 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all986S (Post 557551)
No I haven't, but it may be worth a shot because one key circuit board is totally shot.

Sorry, I just now saw your post. Send me a PM with your symptoms and we can go from there.

Lacostas 12-10-2017 04:03 PM

Damnit, I wish I've seen this thread a few days ago.. Same symptoms, battery draining etc.. I've now ordered a new one from Dealer $220. *feeling stupid*

Edit: I have an extra key, which was working. After pressing it many times, while being away from the car signal area, it has stopped working.. I've heard that if it's being pressed over 1024 times, it's becoming useless, but I don't know if it's true. Currently, the light flashes but nothing else happens.(No battery draining either)

frisbied 03-14-2018 06:34 AM

Hey, I sent you an email, but never heard a response. Are you still willing to fix key fobs? Mine is draining the little batteries about once every 2 weeks. I'd hat eto have to buy a new one from the dealer. Thanks

Smallblock454 03-15-2018 06:47 AM

Same problem here. One switch didn't work and battery drained.

Couldn't find a problem on the back side (my magnification glass is only 10x), but reflowed it. On the front the conductor track near to the switch that didn't worked was damaged. Repaired it with a small wire.

Baking electronic components in an oven to "reflow" isn't a good idea.

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Cormar 08-11-2018 09:51 AM

Hi all, I just purchased an 01 boxster, both keys are missing the circuit board. Any idea where to source these?


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particlewave 08-11-2018 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cormar (Post 577112)
Hi all, I just purchased an 01 boxster, both keys are missing the circuit board. Any idea where to source these?


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Dealer, eBay, Porsche parts retailers...about $150 each. ;)
They must be new. You cannot reuse used key heads unless they have the code included.

Starter986 08-12-2018 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 577115)
Dealer, eBay, Porsche parts retailers...about $150 each. ;)
They must be new. You cannot reuse used key heads unless they have the code included.

Hi Charles,

Sent you a PM couple weeks back, didn't hear from you. In the alternative, because I am unable to find it, could you point me to the link wherein you illustrate the LED "gauge" illustrating the battery voltage... embedded in the fuse panel cover?

Thank you.

particlewave 08-12-2018 07:36 PM

Replied...

pahanorlando 02-16-2019 12:39 PM

I am also looking for new circuit boards and new key casings. Can you post links of the items where you find them at cheapest price? Thank you ☺️

eljtexas 02-17-2019 06:43 AM

Need Help
 
Hello
I too have a misbehaving key. Are you still available to repair?
Thanks

eljtexas 02-17-2019 06:44 AM

Need Help
 
Sorry, did not address the question properly. The question was for particlewave.

Thanks

particlewave 02-21-2019 02:30 PM

Update:

There have been numerous posts lately regarding non-functioning key fobs and my lack of response regarding repair.
The reason I've been reluctant to do any more repairs is that the issue with the fobs can be twofold; physical damage to the circuit and/or loss of sync with the car.
The fob repair is straightforward, but the loss of sync issue is not (I cannot help with that).

With all that said, I'd be happy to help with the repairs, but the syncing issues will be left for the owner to sort out (if there are any syncing issues...there aren't always).

ndfrigi 02-21-2019 04:16 PM

Hi sir (particlewave)!
My key fob was working before and the 1st time it didn’t work, I tried replacing the battery. How much you will charge if i send my transmitter (the electronic board) for you to check or repair? If after your repair is still not working, probably it is the sync issue and I will not complain with you.

Thanks!

Noel
SoCal 90680

MrBen 02-21-2019 07:19 PM

Pw I would be willing to take a chance with mine as well. If it doesn't take care of my problem it's on me at least we eliminated one possibility. From what I am seeing you could line up a few of these.

particlewave 02-22-2019 10:37 PM

I will respond to all messages this weekend. ;)

particlewave 02-25-2019 03:34 PM

I've responded to all messages and emails. If I missed you, let me know! :)

ndfrigi 02-25-2019 03:57 PM

Any feedback for me PW? thanks!
 
No pm for me sir.

CdnRD 02-26-2019 03:57 PM

I’m looking for help with mine too! Trunk and frunk buttons work but lock button doesn’t.

honeybadger986 06-14-2023 10:41 AM

@ParticleWave Could you please message me? I would like to try your soldering solution and am located in MO. Happy to ship and pay $$$.

particlewave 07-31-2023 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeybadger986 (Post 654005)
@ParticleWave Could you please message me? I would like to try your soldering solution and am located in MO. Happy to ship and pay $$$.

If you need something, you can message me.
I may even respond.

JayG 07-31-2023 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 654885)
If you need something, you can message me.
I may even respond.

Glad to see you are still around Charles :cheers:

particlewave 07-31-2023 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG (Post 654886)
Glad to see you are still around Charles :cheers:

Nice to hear from you, Jay :)

Still have the Boxster, but I haven't done a project on it in years. Drive it several times per week, though. I think I'll be giving it to my son, soon.

I got deep into watchmaking 5 or so years ago. Now it occupies my life.
I restore several vintage watches per week, then sell them on eBay. Tiny machines...Fun stuff. ;)

particlewave 07-31-2023 05:16 PM

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