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jb92563 01-15-2016 12:28 PM

3D Printed Boxster Parts
 
Starting this thread as a location to pick up the 3D models for 3D print 986 parts and a reference on how to go about making your own model of parts you want to make.

Especially handy for custom parts and others which are just too overpriced.
You can 3D Model the parts yourself to create ".stl" files and have them printed so you don't need to invest in a printer to reap the benefits.
There are plenty of free/open source 3D Modeling Applications available online.

There are service companies that will print from a supplied 3D model file, so you dont need to own your own 3D Printer.

Existing sources for 3D models:

Search Thingiverse - Thingiverse

"porsche" 3D Models to Print - yeggi

Models | 3D Resources (Beta) - NASA (just interesting no Porsche moon rovers yet)

3D Models - GrabCad Library



3D Printing Services:

https://www.3dhubs.com/

"porsche" 3D Models to Print - yeggi

Prints in other materials as well.(Gold, Silver, Stainless Steel, Clay)
Porsche - Shapeways 3D Printing Search Results

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jb92563 01-15-2016 12:29 PM

3D printed 986 parts:

Wheel Center Caps (Pending- added 3/31/16)

Double Din Radio Surround trim (Pending)

Mesh Headrest Replacement (Requested)

Iphone6 vent holder
Iphone6 and parking card holder for BMW Z4 by Maztah - Thingiverse

Arm Rest Storage - Cup Holder Insert (Requested)

3D Cayman 987 model
http://www.planet-9.com/981-chat/91125-print-your-own-3d-981-cayman.html


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jb92563 01-15-2016 12:37 PM

3D Modeling Education

3D Printing Basics
3D Printing Beginners Tutorials


3D Modeling Apps

Sketchup
FreeCAD
OpenSCAD
List of 3D Modeling Software


Techniques/Tips

geraintthomas 01-21-2016 05:08 AM

Would be nice to have the 'P O R S C H E' lettering and the newer smaller 'Boxster S' badge available as a 3D model file, ready for 3D printing. Won't cost much to print, and a can of chrome paint & lacquer wouldn't cost much either to make it look original.

Buying the original lettering and smaller chrome Boxster S badge costs almost £100 new.

jb92563 01-21-2016 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geraintthomas (Post 480885)
Would be nice to have the 'P O R S C H E' lettering and the newer smaller 'Boxster S' badge available as a 3D model file, ready for 3D printing. Won't cost much to print, and a can of chrome paint & lacquer wouldn't cost much either to make it look original.

Buying the original lettering and smaller chrome Boxster S badge costs almost £100 new.

That would be pretty easy to do but because of the resolution being ~ 0.3mm you tend to get layer lines that would need some post processing to make it smooth.

One could brush some acetone on he lettering to melt the surface together to remove the lines or applying filler and sanding, which would be a bit tedious and time consuming.

https://wanderingdesigner.files.word...tter-fab-5.jpg

What lettering do you need. I need some for my Trunk and it did not occur to me to 3D print it. Great suggestion.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/376146...-PDK-badge.jpg

epapp 01-21-2016 07:10 AM

I have the font installed with my solid works installation, so I can print PORSCHE font on anything.

Here are a few things I've done thus far (all the good stuff is not posted ;) ).

Porsche keychain by chiggayeuh - Thingiverse - PORSCHE keychain, looks great and holds up extremely well (better than the actual leather porsche keychains). I print at 0.1mm Z and 15% infill

AMG logo keychain by chiggayeuh - Thingiverse - AMG keychain (work for Daimler - MB) so this one is given

I will post some other parts when I get home with the hopes that maybe someone wants to build on them. I have one portion of a rollbar cover (backside of the rollbar, like the Klissle covers that were sold) that fits but never finished the remaining pieces.

I also have lots of sensor cases for a project that involves putting lots of sensors in my boxster (complete IOT car sensor system with backend logging to a home web server). They won't be of much use unless you have the exact sensors/PCBs that I do but why not.

AND eventually, mesh headrest inserts :).

Does anyone here have more than beginners experience with 3d modeling that is interested in continuing my designs?

epapp 01-21-2016 07:17 AM

I have also printed the letters for the trunk, correct size, filleting etc a while ago. They would work as perfect replacements for OEM (seriously). You just need lots of patience to cut out adhesive to the correct shape (make sure it is quality adhesive).

I had the letters printed out and ready to put on my trunk, then the GF got me the new black PORSCHE letters as a gift, so I opted for those instead :D.

Nine8Six 01-21-2016 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geraintthomas (Post 480885)
Would be nice to have the 'P O R S C H E' lettering and the newer smaller 'Boxster S' badge available as a 3D model file, ready for 3D printing. Won't cost much to print, and a can of chrome paint & lacquer wouldn't cost much either to make it look original.

Buying the original lettering and smaller chrome Boxster S badge costs almost £100 new.

Best resource for STL and IGS is www.grabcad.com guys. Car parts/badges, guns(! literally), gears, shafts, you have pretty much everything you can imagine sitting there.

geraintthomas 01-21-2016 09:38 AM

That:

http://image.motortrend.com/f/376146...-PDK-badge.jpg

That's exactly what I was looking for. The PORSCHE lettering, accompanied by the smaller Boxster S logo. I'd love it, but I refuse to pay £100 for it.

I'm in the UK (South Wales, specifically) so I may find a local 3D printer to get it done.

I know a bit of 3D myself as I do VFX in TV for a living, so I may be able to help others here :)

epapp 01-21-2016 10:07 AM

I can share the letters to this thread tonight. Ill share STL and .part files so you can modify them if desired.

epapp 01-21-2016 07:07 PM

As promised - PORSCHE emblem letters, accurate size in .part (editable) and .STL (printable) form.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fqu4i2l9amiw8ul/AAAHCRzSeY7SXYv7KHwSrfq2a?dl=0

epapp 02-02-2016 09:34 AM

BTW: pics required if you print the letters!!

Any other cool printable things? I have been looking for a new style custom keychain. Any ideas? I can try to prototype it as well.

epapp 02-02-2016 09:37 AM

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Ben006 02-02-2016 10:24 AM

I have a cool things to print ^^

An intake plenum, and a shifter trim, and a shift knob :)

epapp 02-04-2016 02:31 PM

Please post them!

I need the trim for my shifter (wobbly) and have always been interested in printing a shift knob.

The intake plenum might melt...

geraintthomas 02-04-2016 02:55 PM

You mentioned the PORSCHE emblem is accurate size - is the file you've uploaded a certain size ready for print? Or would you have to state what size to print?

If it's a set size ready to print, is it accurate to the 981? Would be fantastic if it is!

Ben006 02-04-2016 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epapp (Post 482700)
The intake plenum might melt...

http://986forum.com/forums/diy-project-guides/55966-intake-plenum-911-throttle-body.html

;)


For the shift knob, send me your e-mail via PM I'll send you the stl file. It's very simple, just a ball with PORSCHE written on it.


Ben.

epapp 02-04-2016 04:23 PM

That part is printed from nylon [emoji37]. I don't have a printer that can get that hot.

Nine8Six 02-04-2016 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epapp (Post 482713)
That part is printed from nylon [emoji37]. I don't have a printer that can get that hot.

Guys, come on, get back on track please.

That part needs casting. Something you can do out of humid sand with a frame made out of 1/4" plywood (in your backyard). Once you got that done just drop by your nearest forgery and scoop up cast aluminum from them and poor it down the feeding hole. Going to cost you $10 +a tip. As-in a fraction of what it cost to print this out.

Get all ends machined by your machine shop and off you go. Add up $50.

That's what I do with my one-off parts here and will do it again. Not sure what's the holdup with this thing. Nylon or not, with the extreme heat and vibrations this part is going to look like a marshmallow after one summer.

Nine8Six 02-04-2016 06:00 PM

Lookup "aluminum casting" on youtube if you don't know how to fabricate a sand mold. If a teenager can do it, something tells me you guys can as well.

epapp 02-04-2016 06:25 PM

Well, actually, printing this is super cheap if you have your own printer....which I do...just with the wrong tip which cannot get hot enough to print that type of nylon. I can print TPE@ 300C but it might still get a little flimsy inside the plenum under heat soak

Nine8Six 02-05-2016 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epapp (Post 482720)
Well, actually, printing this is super cheap if you have your own printer....which I do...just with the wrong tip which cannot get hot enough to print that type of nylon. I can print TPE@ 300C but it might still get a little flimsy inside the plenum under heat soak

I know nothing about 3D printing mate. Well, never had the technology working successfully for me anyway. We have a Rolland here... literally used it twice and unlikely to use it ever again. Half day printing for a surface area of only 40 in². Go figure... been sitting in the storage room for the last 1.5 years in fact.

Unlikely I'll ever see 3D composite printing, quite sad in fact. We are already at additive & subtractive manufacturing here with now two machines on order. Similar to 3D printing but laying down/melting solid metal instead of plastic. Similar; boring and painful long process you have no idea.... parts are literally going to cost the end user roughly x8times higher (against a traditional high speed 5axis machining center). Again, I don't get it but there you go... that's what the investors wants/need, then they'll get it.

Was under the impression that 3D composite printing was much (much) more expansive than medieval casting methods. I guess I'm out of date already lolll

Ben006 02-05-2016 08:15 AM

If you can make an intake plenum in cast aluminum for less than 60$ as you claim, you'll have my eternal respect, and I'll buy it from you for twice the price !

For my situation:
First, I don't have the tools, nor the place to cast anything, so that's not an option.

Second, I know most of the machine shop in my area, and none of them would do a job for less than a 100$.

And lastly, no, it won't melt, if you've read the thread you'll know.

The only problem as I mention in the thread is the low pressure inside the plenum that made it slightly deform at idle. But that will be solved with the updated version.


I saw a lot of video about sand casting stuff out of aluminium, I know what's required and everything, but the fact that a teenager can do it (I think there's a kid that's 12 and that has a channel on youtube where he casts stuff like slingshots) doesn't make it a better or easier solution.

Sure, you won't mass produce 3D printed parts, but that's not the goal here ;)

3D printing was never and will never be used for mass production, there is no point comparing it to casting.

Ben.

Nine8Six 02-05-2016 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 482778)
If you can make an intake plenum in cast aluminum for less than 60$ as you claim, you'll have my eternal respect, and I'll buy it from you for twice the price !

Ben – I didn’t meant to offend buddy. I did said the technology never really worked for me, read; for the parts that we do. Main problems I had was: 1)parts being completely out of tolerance, 2)couldn’t get any sharp edges (anywhere lol), 3)deformation… especially at the hot plate area and 4)horrible (horrible) surface finishes. If you ask me, this is NOT call “rapid prototyping” more like rapid f-up to me. But again, that’s just me.

Ppl like adv tech & cool stuff and I appreciate this (evolution). That’s what made 3D printers such a success. Of course you’ll say some printers can achieve what you require but then… they cost min$150,000. Roughly the same our few 5axis MC we have at HQ cost where those can 3D cut an injection mold in a flash and that with far superior tolerance (+/-0.005mm). Dare you to achieve this with the equivalent $150k 3D printer. What a scam

My point is, century-old manufacturing methods and process (castings) and/or already proven technologies (CNC/EDM) are often the only way to go. There is a good reason why those methods have been used for so many years.

That said, it might help you to think about investing that $100, Ben (or whatever it cost?). Trust these guys mate, they know what they are doing (you won’t find a 3D printer there I promise you). If you do, change shop man lollllll

My 2c buddy.

Ps: It’s a 3D printer thread so I won’t go into details RE ‘cost’ for a near free casting mold, I’m in China man. These lads here have been doing those for-the-world ever since the tech exist (picture this!).

Pps: that cast slingshot teen is so cool lollll it just shows…..

Ben006 02-05-2016 02:53 PM

I wasn't offended, sorry if I sounded rough!

I totally agree with you, casting and machining aren't things of the past, I've been in the field (sheet metal working and Laser cutting, and a degree in "mechatronic" (I think it's the right translation for "Genie Mécanique" ). :)

I was just trying to point that in some situation (here, my situation, where I can only crate behind my computer, where precision is not required to be down to 1/100th mm, and where I don't intend to mass produce it), 3D printing can be a good solution.

3D printing is a new solution for new needs, not a replacement in any way, I agree!

I would love to be able to cast, and have my own fabrication workshop. It will happen, but I'm not quite there yet... I don't even have a place to work on my car without pissing off the neighbors :/

;)

Ben.

Nine8Six 02-05-2016 03:27 PM

deriving from the topic,

Ben I don't know if you've noticed but there is a lot of guys here who are interested in your plenum solution (ref to your other thread). Given all of the energy and testing you've put into this, it really gave the impression that it was a product soon to be released.

No secret; that little Boxster car could do with anything (anything) to improve its power and you have a brilliant (and tested) product available - however stalled because of manufacturing issues (your 3D printing thing is unbearable, sorry lollll).

Get it done bud. Sell you friggin wheels for 2months if you have too so to get the cash it needs to cast that thing and sell 2,000 units on the internet. 2,000 is a modest qty if you ask me. Believe me you'll be able to buy new wheels right after that.

Again, a 3D printer thread here. However fear I will raise this issue shortly in your other thread soon if you don't activate :D

WE NEED THAT PLENUM KIT (edit: thank you very much!)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ben006 02-05-2016 04:31 PM

I know !
I want it too, but you also have to keep in mind that I'm an international automotive student, with a student loan to pay back, I can't take that much risk right now.

That's why I do the shifters (see the DIY section), to finance this project!

(I found a foundry not too far, I'll go see them when I have time, to see what they can do! )

Sorry for the off topic...

https://www.shapeways.com/product/38H4W95JT/porsche-9x6-shift-knob-plate
I made it available for everyone, I don't make money on it :)

If you select Stanless steel like me, be prepared to smooth and polish it for a solid hour... or two.


Ben.

Nine8Six 02-05-2016 07:54 PM

"Foundry", is that what it's called? Your English is better than mine obviously. I call those forgery here... its a habit lolll

(re-read) Impressive the stuff one can write after a good night sleep, sorry for taking some of your time. Just had my morning Chinese tea now so bring the 3D printers anytime... let's do 'something' ;)

geraintthomas 02-06-2016 03:53 AM

It's incredible isn't it, how far things have come.

"Damn it, that bracket just snapped on me. Ah well I'll just go print another one".

That'll be what will be said in a lot of house holds in the not too distant future, and it's bloody fantastic.

Nine8Six 02-06-2016 08:35 AM

incredible indeed

More like: eh honey I need $12,000 to buy a CAD/Mesh software that does solid or polygon modeling. Also need to borrow a ton more for a 2 years university degree to learn how to model with 3D splines & surfaces.

That bracket model won't appear magically in those household lots. Give that vision another 25~50 years. We'll get there, soon enough ;)

Edit: Correction: since this new generation is so heavily busy learning how to upload meaningful Facebook banners and videos, playing game consoles, or texting using iPhone, I'd say... give it another 100~150 years lolllll

jb92563 02-07-2016 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geraintthomas (Post 482867)
It's incredible isn't it, how far things have come.

"Damn it, that bracket just snapped on me. Ah well I'll just go print another one".

That'll be what will be said in a lot of house holds in the not too distant future, and it's bloody fantastic.

Right now I'm saying "Damn it, there is no model for that part yet so I'll have to make one myself."

And also, "Damn, that model I got free online does not 3D print properly so now I'll have to do the model validation and repair myself"

I guess I'll have to get back into 3D modeling. My first introduction to it was in college in 1983 at the early dawn of CAD and the beginning of the PC computer revolution.

Its kindof fun once you begin to master it but its like learning a foreign language, slow progress at first but then things start to come together and progress rapidly.

Its my impression that math and geometry is not something kids retain these days after school, so there will be the smart folks who can make anything they want and use their creativity and the others that will have to accept what is given to them.

I don't think the 3D printers will catch on in home use yet except for hobbyists.
Give it another 30 years to see if modeling can be done via the "Easy Button" and then pair that with 3D printing.

Nine8Six 02-12-2016 05:16 PM

A bit faked from GE but nonetheless here goes a glimpse of the upcoming new 3D Printing technology and what it can do -the later being very real. Those are the adaptive machines (similar) that HQ have put on order last October, we expect receiving those in July 2016. If all goes well, we'll have Aftermarket Jet Engines as a replacement for depo taillights.

Well, maybe it is not all that faked, who knows. Wonder how they printed the air-bearing (33k RPM lol) and fuel injector, etc etc. Regardless, still a good start/demo and worth showing in its current form.

Welcome to the future! and p.s. no it is not going to be plastic printers as many believed :/ give those another 5 years and they are all dead - you'll have laser and metal dust instead ;)

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jaykay 02-13-2016 06:55 AM

Wonder how they are getting the metal grain properties for strength they need with laser printing. I guess it's a demo and the mass are a lower than a normal sized engine.

Nine8Six 02-13-2016 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 483729)
Wonder how they are getting the metal grain properties for strength they need with laser printing. I guess it's a demo and the mass are a lower than a normal sized engine.

Well spotted Jaykay. Atm there is only a handful of material that you can use. If part needs postprocessing either by hand or traditional CNC equipment, the only materials that can be used is those that does not “work-harden” during processing. And there is not a whole lot of those. That is why (I suspect) this engine is 100% made out of aluminum (non-functional, demo purposes). Bringing along material properties of specific metal/alloy in the adaptive technology is something that remains a great mystery for many of us here.

Melted steel becomes brittle “as glass” (some grades anyway). Try to process this stuff in a conventional CNC milling machine afterward for fun ;)

Like I said all a little faked but still worth showing. That’s why you see patterns being ‘etched’ instead of being 3D printed for real. Regardless the concept (top secret) is pretty obvious along with Siemens NX showing the laser add-on module performing. In fact I don’t blame them for hiding the true manufacturing methods, I’d possibly do the same thing.

RE this engine; I bet nobody was allowed in-or-near that room when they fired-up. You wouldn’t want to introduce any sort of vibrations when this aluminum thing spins above 30K. At those revolutions there is a whole new centrifugal force, vibration and harmonics taking place (not your average Porsche IMS). Can you imagine the explosion lollll

50% Hollywood and 50% real. Again, just a glimpse. The reality behind this is; what’s coming your way – sooner than you can imagine!

Ben006 02-14-2016 08:33 AM

Doesn't koenigsegg use 3D printed turbo for their latest cars? (Low production volume+design complexity)

Shapeways allows you to print directly in some metal, (for other they print a wax model then die cast it, or for stainless steel they glue it together then substitute the glue for bronze if i remember, it's quite strong!).

I tried both stainless and bronze, worked perfectly.

jaykay 02-14-2016 07:05 PM

Ben yeah I recall Mr. Christian saying that in one of his videos ....not sure which parts though maybe it's everything but the turbine and compressor rotors. Again maybe they just squeak the compressor blades as the masses are low....turbine? Would not want that 3D printed item sitting behind my head

rusty69911 02-15-2016 12:34 AM

I'd pay $100 for one of Bens plenums even in plastic,
there are tons of things that could be made,
RS style door pulls for 986,
I saw somewhere a guy printed a recepticle to hold the opener cable but used it to work with another handle instead of the pulls, now a kit for that for a few hundred would sell I would thing, as long as it had a bezel to replace the existing handle, even if it was a cover and the pulls were cut into the door card, just a thought

Posiden 06-10-2016 11:35 AM

Cool!
 
Yeah I'm slowly getting into 3d printing myself. The kids love it too!

Another quick tip is just contact your local university or college and most likely they'll have a 3d printer too. You can even ask for an engineering student and these guys are totally on the ball.

I usually ask them for two types of printers.

1. Ultimaker
2. Form 2 by Formlabs

If you are printing an interior accessory, Ultimaker's aren't bad. If you are printing a proper body part of something big and flexible, always go with the Form 1 or Form 2.

They have some proper materials.

Hope that helps.

Galway 07-21-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geraintthomas (Post 480885)
Would be nice to have the 'P O R S C H E' lettering and the newer smaller 'Boxster S' badge available as a 3D model file, ready for 3D printing. Won't cost much to print, and a can of chrome paint & lacquer wouldn't cost much either to make it look original.

Buying the original lettering and smaller chrome Boxster S badge costs almost £100 new.

Can anyone print one of these. I'll buy one €50.

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Nine8Six 07-21-2016 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galway (Post 503957)
Can anyone print one of these. I'll buy one €50.

Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

Dont think something like that will work in a printer. If you desperately need it 3d printed (for some reason) with smooth surfaces as oem, that will cost you €500 I'd guess. Although never seen this smooth surface printer, yet.

Recommend you to call your parts manager at local Porsche instead.

Other option; No idea about quality and durability. Might melt next week under the sun, or turn pink in a month I have no idea. Strongly discourage but do let me know if you have absolutely no other choice.

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