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Pdwight 06-19-2014 06:14 PM

OBC Cable...is this fair ?
 
I have been working on the OBC upgrade for my 01S. Being out of work at this time I have more time to think and sometimes get myself into trouble. I made this cable up for my car and was thinking. If I made up some more of these and sold them for $45 shipped what do you guys think ?

The cable has the correct connectors, no making a molex work...no forcing connectors in place. All connections hand soldered, crimped and ohmed out. The plug is the correct connector for the OBC Stalk and the cable has heat shrink and a cloth loom to hold it all together. It has IMHO a factory look.

While I would never get rich making these, I could make a little and possibly finance other Boxtser projects down the road.

Here is a pic of my cable and connectror (s)

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps0d7cd207.jpg

Deserion 06-20-2014 04:55 AM

I'm in for this if it'll work in my '04 (which I think it will). :cheers:

BruceH 06-20-2014 06:29 AM

Pack a DIY sheet with it and I am sure you will sell enough to pay for some of your small projects. Like you said you won't get rich but others on here have done the same with other items. You never know, nice work by the way:cheers:

Pdwight 06-20-2014 06:53 AM

Will do
 
I have some more connectors on their way in, should have some cables in a week or so.

Thanks

Dwight

RedTele58 06-20-2014 07:12 AM

I'm in.

+1 on the DIY sheet - it will give guys a "warm fuzzy" on doing the project.

PM me when you have them built and I'll get one. If you need pre-pay, I can do that too.

Rick

BFeller 06-20-2014 08:00 AM

I would be in for one. I have everything ready to go for an install of the OBC setup but the wiring.

eicheldp 06-20-2014 04:29 PM

I'm in for one, PM me when they are ready. Also please include the DIY sheet.

rdass623 06-20-2014 09:36 PM

if you were to make "the poor man's version" as described in the pelican tech article you would probably sell a whole bunch of them for around $100 a pop. that would alleviate the necessity of needing to acquire a four arm stalk for about 250, if you can find 'em.

steved0x 06-21-2014 04:30 AM

Maybe you could also make one for the cruise control add on too.

jsceash 06-21-2014 04:44 AM

Very nice clean built part. That should easily be saleable. Agree also with rdass623. I would like the features but won't buy the factory stalk. The dash switch option is very attractive due to the cost.

JAAY 06-21-2014 05:00 AM

I'm in for one also

danch 06-21-2014 06:47 AM

Good going, you fitted it yet ?

Pdwight 06-21-2014 07:01 AM

Yes,
 
Yesterday, it fit like a glove...everything went together like a snap. Unfortunately my OBC is turned off, have a date with the shop this Wednesday to get it turned on.


The 4 wires that go to the white connector on the Instrument cluster slid firmly in place and clicked locked. I then tugged on the wires to be sure they would not back out (Old X- Ray service guy habit) and then installed the connectors. The dang ground was tough it is at such an angle that I had to use a universal joint 10mm socket to get the nut off and then ream my ground connector to get it to go over the bolt. I will have to use a bigger "eye" connector in my cables in the future....noting like empirical R&D.

Dwight

PS I did pics all along the way

danch 06-21-2014 07:04 AM

Nice going Dwight, it's great when it's activated & so worth doing.

Pdwight 06-21-2014 07:19 AM

Two pitfalls
 
To watch out for, one make sure you mark the distance out for the 4 stalk so the clock spring does not bind. This is pretty easy I took a fine small flat point screwdriver and make a shiny mark on the column. The second one and this is much tougher is to get the new 4 stalk level so it is not too clockwise or anti clockwise . I think I adjusted mine 6 times before I was satisfied. The only way I could tell was to get it snug so you can just barley move it, then sit in the drivers seat and sight the arms of the 4 stalk against the dash pad. Then you have to get out and lay down to tighten the 4 stalk with a 8mm wrench...a socket will not work. I also took the opportunity to clean everything, apply protectant to all the dash that is not normally exposed and you cannot get to. There was something in my steering column and dash cluster that was light tan to brown in color, it wiped up easily......possibly someone stopped too quickly in the past and spilled a chocolate drink into the dash and airbag assembly.....it all cleaned up easily and after some protectant it looked like new. Be sure if you do this you do not test the car with the air bag unplugged or you will get the famous airbag light and need a trip to the dealer or dig out your durametric. I have not tried this but the airbag has a resistance of .3 Ohms, you should be able to put a .3 Ohm resistor across the airbag plug and not get a warning....but I did not want to chance this.

Dwight

lkchris 06-21-2014 01:00 PM

PM me when you have some ready and I'll take one too

Pdwight 06-22-2014 11:01 PM

Parts in bound
 
I have enough parts on their way to make 10 cables, all should be in my hands in a week to 10 days and I will turn these around quickly.

THanks
Dwight

dbansal 06-23-2014 09:23 AM

if you can make a kit for obc and cruise control along with the diy AND source the 4 stalk... you have a big winner...

Pdwight 06-23-2014 11:02 AM

Not sure if I want to go that far
 
I might do a "Economy" kit using a dash switch, I had a hard time finding a used 4 stalk for my own.

rfuerst911sc 06-23-2014 11:27 AM

For those of us that have no clue what you are building and/or no idea what it allows you to do can you explain ? I have an 02 S what would this allow me to do ? Thanks

BruceH 06-23-2014 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 406947)
I might do a "Economy" kit using a dash switch, I had a hard time finding a used 4 stalk for my own.

I would be interested in that.

lkchris 06-23-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 406956)
For those of us that have no clue what you are building and/or no idea what it allows you to do can you explain ? I have an 02 S what would this allow me to do ? Thanks

This is the wiring required for adding the on-board computer function to your car. Function is described in owners manual. You still need the control stalk and professional programming to activate the function

Pdwight 06-23-2014 12:18 PM

MY Cable
 
If you want to add OBC (On Board Computer) to show different information (outside temp, distance etc.) you have to get this feature turned on by a dealer or someone with access to a Durametric scanner then locate a 4 stalk switch assembly. Then you have to order the Volkswagen wires and connector and make up a wiring harness to install. THis will cost you upwards of $85 USD

Pelican Technical Article: Boxster On Board Computer (OBC) Upgrade / Boxster Turn Signal Switch Replacement - 986 Boxster (1997-04) -

MY wiring loom is already made up with the proper connectors , no forcing the wires into the white plug on the back of the instrument cluster. Also my harness looks factory OEM and is already made up and ohmed out and ready to install for $45 shipped.

Here is a few pics of the install last week
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps2242b138.jpg

Pdwight 06-23-2014 12:38 PM

A Comparison
 
I am not putting anything or anyone down here. Bottom is an example of the cable using the information online, the top is my cable. I wanted something that looked factory in my car. I used to make up cables and do PC board level repair in the X-Ray business so I knew I could do better...also for almost half the money.

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...psfcdbb3ef.jpg

Thanks
Dwight

rdass623 06-23-2014 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 406956)
For those of us that have no clue what you are building and/or no idea what it allows you to do can you explain ? I have an 02 S what would this allow me to do ? Thanks

what this modification will do is give you the ability to control the onboard computer. this is a trip computer, which displays various features like miles per gallon, remaining miles per tank, and similar features.

eicheldp 06-23-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 406947)
I might do a "Economy" kit using a dash switch, I had a hard time finding a used 4 stalk for my own.

Pd, If you do decide to move forward with the economy kit, please count me in. I'm having a very hard time finding a 4th stalk for my 04 S.

pjq 06-25-2014 02:57 AM

eicheldp - did you try the salvage yards for a 4 stalk?

pgromada 06-27-2014 03:43 AM

I have a 2001 Boxster and would be interested in the cabling for the dash switch version.

dbansal 06-27-2014 05:07 AM

I would be very interested in an kit that allows me to turn on both OBC and cruise control...

RandallNeighbour 06-27-2014 08:29 AM

Economy OBC wiring kit please. I already have the switch in the dash waiting for it!!!

Pdwight 06-27-2014 09:45 AM

so you just need the harness..right ?

Pdwight 07-01-2014 08:29 AM

Update
 
My connectors are in, my wire shipped from Chicago today so I should have it in hand at the end of the week. I made my harness you see in the pictures with scrap wire I had in my shop, I wanted the harness to all be the same so I ordered some wire so the color code would be universal. I should have some harness ready at the end of the week.

Thanks

Dwight

BFeller 07-01-2014 08:49 AM

Sounds great.

dbansal 07-01-2014 08:57 AM

to be clear this harness is good for both OBC and cruise control?

Pdwight 07-01-2014 09:21 AM

OBC only
 
This is for OBC only, it will connect the stalk to the Instrument cluster with the correct connectors.

rdass623 07-01-2014 07:25 PM

will you be making the harness for the economy mod using a dash mounted switch? fi you do, I would be interested in purchasing one. I have ordered a window switch in anticipation, and really am hoping it will not need to wait for me to figure out how to do it myself.

Pdwight 07-01-2014 10:18 PM

Econo System
 
I will be happy to make a harness for this system, I do not have a good source for the switches...I will investigate further. Can you give me a length you would need ?

Thanks
Dwight

BruceH 07-02-2014 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdass623 (Post 408201)
will you be making the harness for the economy mod using a dash mounted switch? fi you do, I would be interested in purchasing one. I have ordered a window switch in anticipation, and really am hoping it will not need to wait for me to figure out how to do it myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 408214)
I will be happy to make a harness for this system, I do not have a good source for the switches...I will investigate further. Can you give me a length you would need ?

Thanks
Dwight

I would be more interested in the dash mounted switch harness too. Sourcing a stalk can be difficult, a switch not so much.

Pdwight 07-02-2014 08:04 AM

Switch not Stalk Harness
 
This would be from the back of the Instrument Cluster (Gray Plug) to the switch located on the left panel of switches in the center cluster right ?

I could include extra length of wire in case you needed to reroute the loom. This would be no problem. Would you want standard push on (Stakon) connectors for the switch (s) ?

eicheldp 07-02-2014 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 408257)
This would be from the back of the Instrument Cluster (Gray Plug) to the switch located on the left panel of switches in the center cluster right ?

I could include extra length of wire in case you needed to reroute the loom. This would be no problem. Would you want standard push on (Stakon) connectors for the switch (s) ?

PD - Include one for me for the switch mount version.
Thanks


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