Ipad mini in-dash installation

[BruceH]

Originally Posted by jaykay

Pioneer makes an application radio that runs applications uploaded by iPhone iPad or androids ....search on application radio and you will hit it. Not sure if this better than just straight iPad but the install would be far easier

I saw that. The Pioneer I have is a single din. App Radio is a great start, but doesn't compare to actually having an ipad installed. The install of the mini really is not that difficult. Highly recommended!

[Shehadehd]

Funny, I just saw this article on the news

DailyTech - Google to Announce in-Car Android Software Collaboration with Audi at CES 2014

Google wants to start interfacing its OS in cars. The next logical move is for apple to do the same and limit google's market share. Looks like we may see iPads working their way into cars as dealer options sooner rather than later.

EDIT: Just read this quote in a similar article lol.

"Imagine a future where you're racing your Audi through the streets and you get lost. There will be no need to pick up your phone. Instead, you'll just give a voice command to your dashboard, which will bring up navigation software. You will also be able to send an email to your friend telling him you will be late and play your favorite song to cheer you up — all without taking your eyes off of the road or your hands off of the steering wheel."

[jaykay]

Originally Posted by BruceH

I saw that. The Pioneer I have is a single din. App Radio is a great start, but doesn't compare to actually having an ipad installed. The install of the mini really is not that difficult. Highly recommended!

I will definitely look into a straight mini install as you have done. Do you find the SIM card model useful or do you hotspot with your mobile phone? I guess it is tricky to access once imbedded.....but does look clean. Can you attache gps modules before it goes in? The app radio face is a bit messy for my taste.

The current app radios are double din are touted to work all applications just the mini would.....never tried one though....using a mini right now!

[Shehadehd]

Originally Posted by jaykay

I will definitely look into a straight mini install as you have done. Do you find the SIM card model useful? I guess it is tricky to access once imbedded.....but does look clean. Can you attache gps modules before it goes in? The app radio face is a bit messy for my taste.

The current app radios are double din are touted to work all applications just the mini would.....never tried one though....using a mini right now!

Only the mini with 4g capabilities will have a gps in it. I don't know of a way to add a GPS otherwise. The 'sum card model' is the 4g one, and in my view, it's absolutely necessary... Unless you are willing to tether from an iphone every time.

[BruceH]

Originally Posted by jaykay

I will definitely look into a straight mini install as you have done. Do you find the SIM card model useful or do you hotspot with your mobile phone? I guess it is tricky to access once imbedded.....but does look clean. Can you attache gps modules before it goes in? The app radio face is a bit messy for my taste.

The current app radios are double din are touted to work all applications just the mini would.....never tried one though....using a mini right now!

Originally Posted by Shehadehd

Only the mini with 4g capabilities will have a gps in it. I don't know of a way to add a GPS otherwise. The 'sum card model' is the 4g one, and in my view, it's absolutely necessary... Unless you are willing to tether from an iphone every time.

You definitely want to get the mini with the GPS/LTE chip installed. If you buy used, it won't be that much more, if you buy new, it is an extra $128 I believe. You can buy an external GPS but cost wise, it is about the same as getting it built in and then you would have another device that needs to be charged.

Amazon.com: Dual Electronics XGPS150A Universal Bluetooth GPS Receiver for Portable Devices: Electronics

The other advantage of the mini over APP Radio is screen size and of course customization. I have my home screen set to be fairly clean with only the apps that I use most in the tray. I swipe to get to the other apps that aren't as frequently used. You also aren't limited to the apps that Pioneer supports. The mini is not hard to access, the wings on the horseshoe pop out without much effort. I have the mini set to sync via wifi which it does from the garage. All in all, it is one of those great bang for the buck mods. I bought a used horseshoe so I can go back to stock anytime.

[jaykay]

Thanks for your thoughts! Did anyone devise a removal system so that you can take the tablet with you? How are all properly securing the tablet in the dash?

From what I can see quickly: It looks like one has to hollow out the upper din rack leading edges to match the iPads rear housing and then make certain adjustments to the horse shoe for clearance; pad up the inside of the horseshoe; snap on horseshoe side covers to retain the iPad. Looks tricky to shape just right; is just the horseshoe that gets dremeled?

-What are the adjustments to the horseshoe and how did were they made to look this good!
- Are you powering the iPad directly from the Becker?
-What audio out cable is needed for the Becker?
-Is there any need to retain a USB input....What does the power cable configuration look like??
-What is the best horseshoe model to use??

Originally Posted by BruceH

You definitely want to get the mini with the GPS/LTE chip installed. If you buy used, it won't be that much more, if you buy new, it is an extra $128 I believe. You can buy an external GPS but cost wise, it is about the same as getting it built in and then you would have another device that needs to be charged.

Amazon.com: Dual Electronics XGPS150A Universal Bluetooth GPS Receiver for Portable Devices: Electronics

The other advantage of the mini over APP Radio is screen size and of course customization. I have my home screen set to be fairly clean with only the apps that I use most in the tray. I swipe to get to the other apps that aren't as frequently used. You also aren't limited to the apps that Pioneer supports. The mini is not hard to access, the wings on the horseshoe pop out without much effort. I have the mini set to sync via wifi which it does from the garage. All in all, it is one of those great bang for the buck mods. I bought a used horseshoe so I can go back to stock anytime.

[BRAN]

Originally Posted by jaykay

Thanks for your thoughts! Did anyone devise a removal system so that you can take the tablet with you?

My idea will be as follows:

I have a 996 cup holder installed, which "swings" open, so the iPad mini could use that to slide in and out with one push.
Only drawback: The bottom part of the "horseshoe"-frame has to be removed or modified with a "flip up/down" mechanism to maintain kinda oem-looks.

Next problem to solve: A small, lightweight, reliable bluetooth "brand" car amplifier, with usb port, so i don't need a car Audio/Radio. Or maybe go for active bluetooth speakers...

Ideas are there, but is the technology ready? We will see

[BruceH]

Originally Posted by jaykay

Thanks for your thoughts! Did anyone devise a removal system so that you can take the tablet with you? It takes all of 30 seconds to pop off the wings and remove the ipad.

How are all properly securing the tablet in the dash?
Take a look at this thread:
iPad Mini in-dash install [996 MkII] - 6speedonline.com Forums
Lots of great information in there.

From what I can see quickly: It looks like one has to hollow out the upper din rack leading edges to match the iPads rear housing and then make certain adjustments to the horse shoe for clearance; pad up the inside of the horseshoe; (No padding)snap on horseshoe side covers to retain the iPad. Looks tricky to shape just right; is just the horseshoe that gets dremeled? The wings also get Dremeled.

-What are the adjustments to the horseshoe and how did were they made to look this good! Take your time with the dremel!

- Are you powering the iPad directly from the Becker? Yes, but I have now swapped out the Becker for a Pioneer HU with dual USB outputs.

-What audio out cable is needed for the Becker? I used this - iP-BKR2 iPod Adapter for Becker and other Radios with "AUX" Menu Setting :: iPod Adapters & Interfaces and a 30 pin to lightning adapter.

-Is there any need to retain a USB input....What does the power cable configuration look like??
-What is the best horseshoe model to use?? What you already have, or buy a used one(I did) so that you can always go back or if you want or practice your dremel skills on the used one.

Read through this thread and the other thread on sixspeedonline forum. All of the information is there and quite easy. Just take your time. You can mark your line on where you want to remove material with tape, and then just start cutting.

[jaykay]

Nice..thanks guys

Now what I am really after is oil pressure displayed on start up....is the blue tooth com up to that?( oil temp and alt as well)

Digital gauges that pretend to real ones I see all seem a bit cheesy. It would be great to to get simple graphics display in place B-767 style, racepak etc. style