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		|  10-02-2015, 11:18 AM | #1 |  
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			I am going to AutoX my '99 for the 2nd time on Sunday!  I would welcome any tips for getting the most out of it in slow corners. 
I am running 280 TW tires on 17's  225fr /255re.
 
The 1st outing was my very first AutoX exactly 1 year ago.  My car seemed to have alot of understeer, but that could have been me.  Since I was beaten by some miatas, I bought a '90 miata like my friends and have done 6 events with it.  That engine needs a re-build, so i am back to try the boxster again.
 
Thanks, 
Jeff
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		|  10-02-2015, 11:39 AM | #2 |  
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			Porsche  builds in understeer, its simply safer for unskilled drivers
 Tire pressure will effect the under/oversteer.
 I am running 32 f / 34 r vs factory 29 f /36 r
 
 225/255 on 17's is much better the the factory 205/255 setup
 
 What tires are you running?
 Are you staying street stock, or running a modified class
 
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		|  10-02-2015, 12:41 PM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by JayG  Porsche  builds in understeer, its simply safer for unskilled drivers
 Tire pressure will effect the under/oversteer.
 I am running 32 f / 34 r vs factory 29 f /36 r
 
 225/255 on 17's is much better the the factory 205/255 setup
 
 What tires are you running?
 Are you staying street stock, or running a modified class
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I am C Street in SCCA, car has not been modified.
 
Front tires I bought and are Nitto Neo gens, 
Rears came on the car and are Maxxis MA-Z1 Victra, which seem to be darn sticky, probably more so than the fronts, but i tried to match the best I could.
		 
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		|  10-02-2015, 01:32 PM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jschindler  I am C Street in SCCA, car has not been modified.
 Front tires I bought and are Nitto Neo gens,
 Rears came on the car and are Maxxis MA-Z1 Victra, which seem to be darn sticky, probably more so than the fronts, but i tried to match the best I could.
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with different tires front and rear, it could change the handling a lot
 
Popular tires for AX in a 986 are the hankook RS-3
		 
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		|  10-03-2015, 01:22 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by JayG  Porsche  builds in understeer, its simply safer for unskilled drivers
 Tire pressure will effect the under/oversteer.
 I am running 32 f / 34 r vs factory 29 f /36 r
 
 225/255 on 17's is much better the the factory 205/255 setup
 
 What tires are you running?
 Are you staying street stock, or running a modified class
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Jay, I tried your pressures cold, and it seems to have given me a lot more steering at street speeds. Looks promising for competition tomorrow.  Thanks!
		 
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		|  10-03-2015, 02:22 PM | #7 |  
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			What?!?!?!?  Crap I just made my number plates... ok B Street doesn't seem fair at all.  At least I felt like I had a chance against the FR-S twins
		 
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		|  10-03-2015, 02:49 PM | #8 |  
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			In BS you'll have tons of fun chasing S2000s, Evos, and STIs.  I like that it motivates me to continually improve instead of having an easier time beating up the FRS/BRZ crowd in CS.
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		|  10-03-2015, 06:51 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jschindler  Jay, I tried your pressures cold, and it seems to have given me a lot more steering at street speeds. Looks promising for competition tomorrow.  Thanks! |  
Cool
 
Let up know how it worked out
 
I started  thread a few weeks ago that has a formula for calculating tire pressure based on front and back weight and tire width
 
It gives you good starting point 
Weight on front and rear 
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		|  10-03-2015, 06:52 PM | #10 |  
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That probably is close to 32F / 34R cold
		 
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		|  10-05-2015, 05:21 AM | #11 |  
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			Thanks for the tips.  The car seemed much better especially on corner entry. 
I set the pressures to 32 fr / 34 re and when hot they measured 34 fr / 37 re
 
My first run was a 62 sec and I set my goal at a 58.  I ran a 59.9,  a 59.0 and then my last run was a 57.9.
 
That placed me 15/31 , and surprisingly, I was not last place in BS.
 
Here is a video of my last run:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oueX9lXI834
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		|  11-30-2015, 07:37 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by JayG  That probably is close to 32F / 34R cold |  
Thanks again JayG for the tire pressure tips.  My car feels so balanced now, I just leave my pressures that way for the street & its much better.  Saved me from buying the M030 kit for now.
 
Jeff
		 
 
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