is this what idiots think of us?
 

Sometimes I get crap about my car or I hear crap from other "car people". Typical stereotypes and generalizations range from, "You can't afford a real Porsche" to "Your car is a girl car."

I usually ignore the critics because I know I know ten times as much as them about cars and I can't possibly respect an ignorant opinion. That's like if a blind man told me my shirt was ugly and I went and changed it because of his opinion.


Here's one example I witnessed today...


This was taken from a forum I use a lot, my350z.com, which is a community for Nissan 350Z owners.



I can't get over the utter stupidity and ignorance displayed here. I don't even need to explain why.

This isn't the first example I've seen.


Do you guys get crap also? From what specific groups do you hear it from? How do you respond? BMW communities have never spoken a word other than to compliment me.


This type of ignorance actually upsets me.



If you want to read the thread, http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234467&page=13



Thanks for letting me rant, guys.

no
 

No one ever says anything like that to me, they probably wouldn't dare..., at least in my presence...
;)

The way I look at it, does it really matter what they think?
Especially irrelevant people.

well its not like u think highly of a 350z :rolleyes:

Fortunately nobody has ever said it to me in person besides my sister who got it from a tv drama (sopranos is a great source for auto info. and reviews)


I don't respect their opinions but it bothers me that people could be so stupid and what's worse is they are content w/ their ignorance.

well i guess if you search around you can find hate about any car. and i bet most people on there never drove a box b4

It's just the fact that his post has absolutely ZERO fact in it or logical reasoning and that is how baseless stereotypes and generalizations get spread.




Most of them are between 18-22 years old on that forum. I'm not sure if that is a contributing factor to the levels of ignorance, but there is definitely a correlation.

I don't care what other people think. I didn't buy my Boxster (or my Prius) to impress others.

Opinions are like ................. everyone has one.

Even us!

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

But keep it an opinion.


Don't make objective statements about things if you don't know the facts. Like that most people driving Boxsters are females.


I can't even name a female on this site that I know of anyhow.

Anytime you see a boxster hater like that, ask them if they have driven one and the answer is no 99% of the time. Some people just don't get it or feel insecure about their own car so they have to put down others. As mentioned ealier there are bad stereotypes about almost any car, including the 350Z I might add.

Amen! Who cares what someone else thinks. We looked at the Boxster because it's one of two convertibles that fits the wife's height comfortably. Once we drove it, that was it. We bought the Boxster because we both love driving it, not so we would be seen in a Porsche, so don't let them get under your skin.

This came up in a thread a few weeks back. It's a shame more from the Porsche community (oh there's another car made besides a 911??) than from others like Nissan.

I mentioned this exist in the BMW world. I am even looked down on by our pompous dealer for having a '99 3 series. :D

At least I have found no division among us here. S vs non S, 987 vs 986. That is very evident and viscious on some Bimmer boards.

Bottom line, I care less. I chose them, drive them and pay for them.

Say what?
 

If someone buys the car for me, pays the insurance and gas, they then have the right to a say in how or what kind of car it is. Other than that they can go s**t in their hat and pull it down over their ears. It is the ones with class envy that p**s me off the most. My life is time, my earned money reflects that time, they are NOT entiltled to it.....go back and read that again. My choices are just that, mine! Like the old song says, "shut your mouth, go away!" Sheesh!!!!!

986geezer

you can't let other folks' ignorance get to ya. and the poster may actually have some valid points, i.e., the boxster is the entry-level in porsche's line-up (truedat), and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if a majority of 911 owners looked down on boxsters and their owners. so what?

quite frankly, the reason i'm getting a boxster is that i want a fun, affordable, mid-engine convertible. i'm afraid that if i got a rear-engine 911, i'd prolly kill myself. i'm by no means a professional driver (never taken a class, never been on a track, never intend to do either), nor do i have any preconceived notions of my driving prowess, and believe me, a boxster is prolly more car than i can handle. that being said, i'm still debating getting the base or the S.

:-D

You know how that works. People always will lie to you or say, "My friend had one..." or something like that.


One thing sc986 is right about is that here we all treat each other the same. I don't care if someone is driving a pre-production 986 from 1996...I respect you all the same and you all respect me the same.



I believe everyone has a car identity and that because of our car identity, we identify w/ a certain car or type of car. It is obvious here that everyone has identified w/ the Boxster for one reason or another.

Like Jeremy Clarkson once said, "You can't explain true love", when talking about his Ford GT.

Here is an example of how many that dislike the Boxster completely flip their opinoin after a drive in one; My dad didn't like Boxsters at all,not one bit,he even bad mouthed it a couple of times after I even bought. I let him drive it a couple of times,it was funny trying to see him drive a bottom-hinged gas pedal and dual mass flywheel. Well after that and letting him drive it through some turns he completely changed his mind and even considered buying one. I promptly made sure that he knew the Boxster model line is MINE,he can't copy his son :cool:

-Most of the people that run their mouths about Boxsters being cheap are wrong,these things are still expensive unless you by an early model high mileage one that is basically stripped.

-Now about the whole girl car thing,yes many other cars are faster but I've been in tons of other fast cars that don't have the handling or braking that they should to be a complete sports car,THE BOXSTER IS BALANCED IN EVERY ASPECT!

-"Poser Porsche",nonsense poppy pants! Who is to call it a "poser",the 911 crowd? Need I remind them that the first Porsche was a Roadster? Oh it's not a Porsche because it's not air-cooled? Cry me a river,Porsche was in need of more cooling,hence the move to radiators.

The best response to any smart remark by anyone would be walking away, taking the Boxster out,giving it a good ol' fashion spirited drive and tell them to wipe that grin off your face if they can.

If those comments were delivered by someone slightly more articulate (or at least knew some basic English grammar) then I might have read his opinion. Plonk.

-- peer (a foreigner, currently living in California)

well he couldnt even spell Boxster right :matchup:

I usually dont put too much stock in the opinion of a person that uses the word "da" for "the", but that may be just me.

So he is saying his Boxster experience is driving a '98 911? Hmmm.

I bought the car because I loved the styling and frankly a convertible 911 doesn't look as nice IMHO and for what people have to say about me, my car or whatever
the **************** i own doesn't bother me at all. I'm the one who worked for it all so I'll do as I please. Now i must try to figure out how to fix my IE browser from being redirected every time i type an address :mad:

I think he was saying that as a 911 owner he too believed Boxster owners didn't belong.




I don't know why it offends me. Coming here and feeling all the pure love for driving is what makes me love it here. It seems like this poster and some people on that site are just fanboys.


No fanboys here. Just people who love driving.

You know, people like that tend to get under my skin. How dare they condescend the Boxster and Boxster owners. It's not only beautiful, but it's such a well balanced car. Other peoples' ignorance tends to annoy me.

Then I slide into the driver's seat of my Box, plug in my iPod, and the annoyance (is that a word?) goes away.

Screw the haters, lol, whether they are 350Z drivers, 911 drivers, or Saturn Sky drivers.

Annoyance is a word :D


Unfortunately my Box is still stuck in the ice lol.


I swear to god I'm getting it out today even if I have to push it!!!!!!

On the flip side in our defense to the Z owner.....

I wanted to leave the SUV modding thing and get back to a sports car. It came down to a 350Z and the Boxster. When I made the decision a friend said I think you are making the right choice. Years down the road the Porsche will be more desireable and valuable with alot of age than a Nissan.

Bravarian made a good point. I want to come to a forum where people love the cars and talking about them. That is one aspect of the SUV that I enjoyed the most. Everyone had fun and alot became friends. I don't have much to offer since I don't know alot about the car yet, but I still come here evryday and read.

Good, I learned a new word today. :)

Good luck getting your Box out today. You guys should have snow flurries today in the City. I finally got my car out and drove it to work this morning. I only spun the tires once on the cold pavement... but at least the roads are clear and dry. ;)

I'm with Schnell. I bought the car for me and I really don't care what anybody else thinks. I didn't buy it to impess people with. That is why they have chocolate and vanilla. You have a choice.

People have opinions, right or wrong. The issue I find with most things of this nature, is the lack of tact that so many in the online community illustrate. I find it particularly more amusing when I see things written in horrible grammer and spelling akin to a 12 year old. I just have to laugh when I see things written like "yo man u got to get a 350Z, there da bomb. I'll never buy a boxster, themz girls cars."

Granted, a good percentage of them are under 25, and most, by a good margin at that. I run into this kind of thing on the few occasions when I meet the local car group for dinner or something of the sort, which is largely comprised of 16-25 year olds driving modified neons and evos and the like. Either people think the Boxster is cool, or its 'yo man, why yo got a girl's car?" Personally, I could care less. What I find extremely satisfying, however, is when I am parked near a modified Evo or something like that like, is how all the guys will flock to that, while all the girls flock to the Boxster, and the look on the face of the Evo owner is priceless enough.

Just enjoy what you drive, some will like it, some won't. At the end of the day, how much do you really care?

Patrick

HAHA.


Too bad I can't get any girls :D

I can't believe this thread is still going!

I was once a hater, I thought of Boxsters as a chick or gray hair car as that was usually who I saw driving them, then I needed a daily driver, went to buy a 350Z and ended up with my Boxster S. It is a great car, much more comfortable then my 911 and has AC that works. I am now thinking of selling my 911 to buy a project Boxster.

In the end it is your choice, owning a Porsche is not a calling, it is just a car. If you go to the Porsche factory they are lined up just like at the Toyota factory, only more expensive.

Human beings are fascinating.

We love to belong, be the same, and be different.

Let the good times roll.

PS-Its just a car!

Why do you care what this person said? Is he/she some sort of authority? I really don't think it is worth the energy or bandwith to respond.

Ken

Why should you feel you have to justify anything to anybody...

I'd say the age has a lot to play into it. Younger guys feel the need to 'beat their chests' a bit more than some of us.

Saw it a bit more on my previous car's forums. Most people who owned a Hyundai Tiburon were younger. When I bought my 911 as a project car, the difference between the Tiburon and Porsche forums was night and day. Not saying there weren't any decent people on the Tiburon forums, because there absolutely were... but there was a fair share of ignoramuses.


And if someone said something to me like that a$$tard quoted from the Nissan forums, I'd just laugh, because I know I have a nice car, and I know what it's capable of.

It is not the material matter at hand so much as it is the principle matter.


This same type of ignorance is what causes half of the sociological problems in the world.


Ok, this is just a car, but what is that person going to do in other situations? Say, given the opportunity to vote.

What about racism? All racism is essentially is generalizations and stereotypes w/ little to no fact behind the reasoning; SAME thing that this guy is doing.




I don't feel I have to justify myself. I hardly responded to the guy even. But the mentality itself is bothersome.

Absolutely right.

And if anyone doesn't think so, ask yourself what would happen if you gave this kid a choice to go on a cruise w/ old classics, SUVs or Boxsters.


The kid will naturally be inclined to go to the Boxsters because he relates to us. But we are so different...?

Hi Bavarian Motorist, I think you are a very sensitive and resealable person, so there's something about your avatar that just bugs me to much, it's a parking lot photo and doesn't do justice to your nice car. If it was a 350Z i could understand but come on guy it's a PORSCHA . :cheers:

Hah. You're right.


I'll take pics today so my car can really shine like it is supposed to :)



BTW: My dad managed to get my car out of the ice.

I guess I don't get your point. Virtually all of us have opinions and positions on virtually everything. That is a fact. What are you suggesting we do about it?

If someone expresses an opinon to me that I consider to be ill founded, I have largely given up trying to change their point of view. It rarely works and it is rarely worth the effort. Just consider the source and move on.

Don't try to teach a pig to fly, it simply angers the pig and wastes your time.

but then again look at this forum, we re all bunch of blonde hair dressers, so the guy was right....correct? :rolleyes: