What drop-top would you consider as a replacement to the Boxster?
 

I'm thinking of an eventual replacement for my 2000 Boxster and coming up with few choices. Topping my list are the Porsche 996, BMW M3, and Acura NSX. My problem is that I will probably want something I can drive without the top and I think the 996 and M3 look pretty ugly in their convertible versions. An NSX targa would be nice but they are hard to find and expensive in low mileage. I also don't know how reliable an M3 would be. I really like my Boxster and how reliable it has been but sometimes I just want a little more power. I don't know if just getting an S would satisfy me. What choices would you guys have as a replacement?

Being a "Porsche" kinda guy, I say 996... or better yet 993 :)

I'm most definately a Porsche guy (you should see my cubicle) but I think the 996 convertible looks like a bathtub. The 993 looks better but I hate the interior.

Hi,

Personally, I believe in the philosophy "So many cars - so little time". I cannot ever see myself buying another of the same model car. So switching up to an 'S' isn't an option for me. My brother, on the other hand, has owned a Volkswagen Jetta since 1985 - 6 in all. To me, that's like going to 31 Flavors and ordering Vanilla.

One car I'm keeping my eye on as a possible replacement is the mid-engined MG TF. In 2002 the MGF was rebadged MG TF. The most significant mechanical changes were the abandonment of Hydragas suspension in favour of conventional coil springs, the new design of the air-induction system that along with new camshafts produces more power than in MGF engines, and the torsional stiffness of the body increased by 20%. Various cosmetic tweaks include a revised grille, redesigned front headlights, bumpers, side air-intake grills, rear boot, etc. The MG TF was the first car of its class to be awarded a leading 4-star safety performance from EURONCAP.

The MG TF was popular in comparison with the best affordable sports cars in the UK. However, production was suspended in 2005 when MG Rover collapsed. Nanjing Automobile Group bought MG Rover's remaining assets during bankruptcy proceedings and plans to restart production of a redesigned MG TF in Longbridge and in Ardmore, Oklahoma, in early 2007. For the first time the MG TF will become available in the U.S. Prices s/b in the $25k-$35k range and performance should equal (or be nearly) that of the Boxster. Plus, it's a good looking car to boot...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

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Here's another pic of the MG TF...

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And another...

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You should trade up to this! DB9, baby!

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Last one - I promise...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Trade ya, even swap!

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...cd1b8d96_m.jpg

Jim, I can see why you might choose this car. It's attractive from every angle. What do you think the dependability of the car would be and how about the resale value?

Another Boxster.

I wish I could afford an Aston. I'm looking for something that I would pay less than $20k over the price I get for the Boxster which I would assume is also around $20k. That MG doesn't look like a bad choice but I don't know that it would fill my power appetite.

Hi,

Reliability of the MGF engine was good. The 1st gen had issues with the Headgaskets failing due to using Nylon dowels in the head for positioning. These would fail and the headgasket could/would slip. In 2001, Rover replaced the Nylon dowels with Steel ones and this fixed the problem. Other than that, the reliability has been very good.

The car is light and reasonably well handling. Check this driving impression from Graham Bell : http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=138&i=4752

Of course, this is the car that was. The Nanjing Automobile Group has said that it will make improvements to both the powertrain and suspension on the 'new' model, so we'll have to wait and see what they do to it. Still, it's a great little runabout - imagine a mid-engined Miata...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

First things first. Since you're happy overall with your Box experience find out if S would do the job, then look elsewhere. It looks more like you're bored by the Box in general and would like a taste of something different. Nothing wrong with that.

This is the one for me!!!

PAGANI ZONDA!!!

I've thought about this too and really there's nothing out there that really seems like an upgrade if you are trying to stay in the roadster category without spending a much bigger amount. Before the Boxster I was leaning toward an S2000 (which I think is as good as the BoxsterS just kind of dull looking). Reliability is very important to me.

If you are looking to get out roadsters and into coupes or GT's then there are plenty of options. I'm looking at 2nd hand CaymanS or a 2002-2004 911 Turbo.
I'm a fan of the Z4 Coupe but there are just too many good deals on Pcars nowadays to opt for a Bimmer.

But I can't see myself in a tin top on a warm summer day and having two sports cars seems excessive to me....Tough choice but I can honestly my BoxsterS may be the best sports car I ever own.

hmmmm i would say anything audi.......

i have thought about this, and people have asked, what i would buy next.

not too much that compares to the boxster, without having to spend over $100,000.

sorry that mg looks like a 2 door jetta, and pretty awful looking.

i would only consider a cayman, but it seems that you want a roadster.

so pretty much you have to keep the boxster or put in another $100, 000 and
get the 997 or ahhhh used turbo.

no substitute

look at your sig pic and now look at the mg pics......no substitute

Hi,

I don't know where you get Jetta looking at it, but to each his own. Now, Audi's do have the Jetta look, similar DNA I suspect. But, the Cayman is just another Boxster with a fixed roof...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

The Pagani Zonda F

I don't see a Jetta either. It does look a lot better top down than up. But I think that same thing about the Boxster too.

The MG looks like a Volvo and an ugly one at that.

To each their own!

I'm thinking of an eventual replacement for my 2000 Boxster and coming up with few choices. Topping my list are the Porsche 996, BMW M3, and Acura NSX.

I'd agree with your assessment of the 996 cab's looks and my personal feelings on the car are that it suffers from the same drawbacks as the 986, everything about the car's design and engineering is inherently ten years old, which does not make it a bad car...just dated.

I hope you're not talking about an e36 BMW M3 convertible, because the 240 hp U.S. version of that car is an insult to the M division. The e46 M3 convertible is nice, just not a great performer due to chopping off the roof and adding three hundred pounds. If you get one, you should wait until the new M3 comes out next year to wait for the depreciation on the e46. I disagree about the looks and find it one of the more menacing convertibles around and more masculine than most roadsters. Four seats is also nice...

On the NSX, you'll want the 97 version or later due to the 3.2 engine upgrade but would suggest 2002 or newer because of the upgrades that went in that year (xenons, body kit, etc.). Make sure you call your insurance company first on this one, as the aluminum body makes them expensive to repair and insure. Maintenance is Porsche-dealer expensive as well, and you'll probably want to get service at a Honda/Acura dealer rather than an independent. This car chews through expensive tires even faster than a Boxster.

I've driven most of the late-model convertibles out there, and if you can live with the styling I'd recommend a new Z4M. Best standard kit, most powerful in class, free maintenance for 4/50 and they're not exactly selling like hotcakes so prices are good. The 3.2 engine on some of the earlier M3s were not exactly trouble free, but by now they've been ironed out. You might also want to wait on the next generation 325/330 convertible as it looks to be a stunner and the engine in the 330 coupe is a 300ft. lbs/ 300 hp ass-kicker from all accounts.

I think the MG is nice looking. Much better than most of the Jap beer can roadsters. It doesn't say ATTITUDE though.

If faced with such a dilemma I would apply simple logic... If not Porsche... then Ferrari. They are arguably still the only game in town if you want great looks, great performance and great pedigree in a purpose built, no compromise roadster. If you do decide on a Ferrari keep a good mechanic on retainer though. Maintenance and repairs are mind-boggling.

Thanks for the advice. I was looking at the e46 M3... I love the looks of the regular ones but not a big fan of the drop top version. I'm not sure why... either too much canvas with the top up or the 4 headrests sticking up with the top down make it seem less sporty. I would get a pre-2002 NSX if not for the price then simply because I like the looks of the pop-up headlights alot more than the newer fixed ones. Hopefully someone around me will get an NSX in that I can test drive... that is probably #1 on my list of other cars right now. The more I think about it the more I think I should just save up for some upgrades to the Boxster (body kit, 996 engine swap). It might not be the most financially responsible descision but it would probably leave me the happiest.

I'm not sure if "use" was specified but...

1) 1950's Porsche Speedster
2) Any 356 Cab (mmm Carerra II with Fourcam would be nice ;)

3) Cayman Convertible :p
4) 996
5) Mini Cooper S JCW
6) MB SLK
7) Z4, M

You can get a used SLK55 AMG for ~$45-50k. It's a V8, 355hp, 376 lb-ft, convertible hardtop. That's a pretty nice machine and tad faster than a new Boxster S. (I'd still pick the S any day of the week, but if you're tired of the pcar for some reason).

See http://www.mbusa.com/models/features/specs/overview.do?modelCode=SLK55&class=07_SLK

I've been thinking about this all day (I know, scary isn't it). With a ceiling of $40,000 and change, there really aren't too many inspiring cars out there, particularly if you want something you can comfortably drive daily. If you were looking for a toy, there are many offerings in that range (the 550 Spyder and Cobra replicas immediately come to mind). I have to say that if you don't like the 996 and you don't want to stay with the 986, the NSX is not a bad choice. Still, you're going to be pressed to find a good, later model example in the price range you're talking about.

The Mercedes SL500 and SLKs really don't do it for me, especially after my experience with my last E Class. It probably varies by area of the Country, but around here, everybody seems to have one. They're like the Annapolitan Corolla or something.

To me, the MGF is still a pipe dream and even if it does happen and appears on our shores, it looks eerily like this...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...1/DSC05896.jpg

I guess if it were me, I'd upgrade the Boxster or step up to a 987S ...which is probably why I bought a Boxster when looking for a fun rag top in the first place.

Good luck.

Hey, how about the Elise? They are a blast to drive and the way their values have fallen off a cliff, you may be able to get one and a half of them for $40k. Of course, if they haven't improved their reliability over the years, you may need one and a half of them just to keep it running. I'd recommend the roadside assistance insurance, but it is cool.
http://carad.ebayimg.com/i8/06/a/000/77/4f/d550_4.JPG

Lotus Elise if you are looking in that price range.


No question about it.



I agree w/ Jim. So many cars. So little time. I may get a 911 some day, but not another Boxster.



EDIT: Grizzly beat me to it.

$40k, gobs of power, convertible, not a Porsche - I'd look at the used Corvette C6.

Lotus, Yes... Elise no.... Exige S OH YEAH BABY!
top comes off too!

Supercharged, more aggressive styling, slightly better suspension and better tires.

...And bigger price tag too. That's why I mentioned the Elise. Exige is cool as hell for $55 grand.

If it were me, and I was deciding between those 3, I'd go for the NSX. It's a sweet sounding car... It's a Honda. It turns heads more than the other two ever could. It's got healthy performance numbers. Getting an '02, as some one suggested earlier, is probably out of your price range judging by the fact you're looking at used E46s.

Now then, if TOPLESS didn't have to be a requirement, I'd say M3 (maybe with a sunroof?) hands down. In fact, why won't a sunroof cut it? The M3 is a serious machine, but a bit on the conservative side (in terms of looks), but a contender nonetheless.

The mall I work in has a BMW dealership in it so I see all the new cars everyday. They have a 6 series and a z4 coupe thats new in there. They also had a Z4M in last month. By the looks of it, the coupe looks quite nice, I didnt think Id like it due to the older style coupes (ugly), but its pretty clean. Now a Z4M coupe... thatd be a hard car to not want to buy. Personally Id buy a hyundai tiburon and put a V8 in it, with nos, and lots of stickers on the side, with air ride suspension, and a sweet body kit. And still have 20,000 left over.

Top does not come off the exige because the supercharger air feed is on the top.


On the REGULAR exige which I don't believe is sold anymore, the top is removable with some tools.

Hi,

I did a Track Day at Road Atlanta with both the Elise and the Exige courtesy of Lotus North America - freekin' awesome rides, but daily drivers? - forget it!

BMW M3? That's so cliche' these days, besides, they're Sports Sedans and no Sun!...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

New M3 cab. won't even be out until 2008.


Not sure why, though. Maybe it's a marketing technique: Get all the buyers you can for the m3 coupe and when the demand dies down, THEN start selling the cab.

Some great suggestions, thanks guys. For now i'll probably be hanging onto the Boxster but I have a few cars on my list to check out now. Unless they blow me away I may just have to upgrade the Box.

So things come full circle, just as they did for many of us here. There really may be no substitute. :)

Z.