Push Button Starter

[Jeph]

Some one correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a throw-back to the ol' racing days. Similar to why Posrche has the key on the left side (which is where the button is supposed to go -like the S2K), it's for racing. It's quicker/easier than turing a key, and being on the left side (on a left side drive car of course) allows the opposite hand to be on the stick.

I wanna say the Honda S2000 brought this back. The Viper SRT10 has it, but it's on the wrong side. Then luxury cars such as BMW, Lexus, & Mercedes made it a convenience feature -key need not be inserted to start the vehicle. It's pretty cool on some Mercedes, where the button is on top of the gear selector.

On some cars it's a throwback, others it's convenient feature.

[djomlas]

what i also like is the MB key, that big fat thing, just put it in ther and turn and let go, then car starts, no need to hold for that second for it to turn over, and it looks kool
this thing, 1st time i saw it i tought the key pops out


and then also there is Saab and their whole turning the car on thing

[jeffsquire]

Now all you need is a Bat Smoke toggle. . . :dance: Seriously, whatever fancys you. I think the new BMW 5 series have this starter button now.

[NickCats]

Originally Posted by djomlas

what i also like is the MB key, that big fat thing, just put it in ther and turn and let go, then car starts, no need to hold for that second for it to turn over, and it looks kool
this thing, 1st time i saw it i tought the key pops out

and then also there is Saab and their whole turning the car on thing

I never knew that my Benz did that !

I tried it this morning and sure enough, turn and let go and the car starts...

Thanks, djomlas

Nick

[Perfectlap]

buy now saab later....I love that joke

Originally Posted by NickCats

I never knew that my Benz did that !

I tried it this morning and sure enough, turn and let go and the car starts...

Thanks, djomlas

Nick

Hey Nick, FYI, that key fob will also open and close your windows & sunroof.

[John V]

Originally Posted by Jeph

I wanna say the Honda S2000 brought this back. The Viper SRT10 has it, but it's on the wrong side. Then luxury cars such as BMW, Lexus, & Mercedes made it a convenience feature -key need not be inserted to start the vehicle. It's pretty cool on some Mercedes, where the button is on top of the gear selector.

On some cars it's a throwback, others it's convenient feature.

I think it's just inconvenient. One of the only things I really hated about my buddy's S2000 was that stupid button. You have to turn the key to unlock the steering column anyway, why make two steps out of one? Oh well.

[Perfectlap]

actually its three things: turn key, engage clutch and repeat but pull floor matt out from under clutch. I need new floor mats! or a hot glue gun to get the velcro to stick to the back of the floor matt again.

The push button thing is not at a fad. Been on the S2000 for nearly 7 years now.
The Aston Martins have it as well, those cars have maybe the coolest sounding engine start up ever. If it were a factory option on my 986S I would have gone for it, like the soon to be installed one-touch softop button. I always thought a spoiler button would be cool too, does the spoiler go up and down if you are in and out of 70mph or whatever it is?

I don't understand why cars still have key locked steering column and why German cars require you to depress the cluch. A locking steering column is nothing a determined car their can't get around very quickly. I'd like to see cars progress into the 21st century and have a numerical code that unlocks the steering and a push button for engine start up. The whole ignition process on the Pcar seems very antiquated.

I wish my Boxster started like my wife's Mercedes. Just like Djomlas says, insert key, turn, and the car does the rest.

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

actually its three things: turn key, engage clutch and repeat but pull floor matt out from under clutch. I need new floor mats! or a hot glue gun to get the velcro to stick to the back of the floor matt again.

The push button thing is not at a fad. Been on the S2000 for nearly 7 years now.
The Aston Martins have it as well, those cars have maybe the coolest sounding engine start up ever. If it were a factory option on my 986S I would have gone for it, like the soon to be installed one-touch softop button. I always thought a spoiler button would be cool too, does the spoiler go up and down if you are in and out of 70mph or whatever it is?

I don't understand why cars still have key locked steering column and why German cars require you to depress the cluch. A locking steering column is nothing a determined car their can't get around very quickly. I'd like to see cars progress into the 21st century and have a numerical code that unlocks the steering and a push button for engine start up. The whole ignition process on the Pcar seems very antiquated.
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http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/convertibles/0509_4+2006_Aston_Martin_DB9_Volante+Interior_View _Engine_Starter_Button.jpg[/IMG]

COOL picture, PL. Thanks! I wish our cars have recessed door handles like this car too.

[John V]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

I don't understand why cars still have key locked steering column and why German cars require you to depress the cluch. A locking steering column is nothing a determined car their can't get around very quickly. I'd like to see cars progress into the 21st century and have a numerical code that unlocks the steering and a push button for engine start up. The whole ignition process on the Pcar seems very antiquated.

Current BMWs with "comfort access" have a key fob that you don't ever have to take out of your pocket. Walk up, the car unlocks, you hop in and push the button and the car goes. That makes sense to me - you never have to pull out the key. It electronically unlocks the column. Pretty slick. Cadillac has this now as well, and probably some other companies.

To have to put the key in the dash, turn it, THEN push a button? Makes no sense.

The spoiler has some hysteresis in it. It goes up at 70, but goes back down at some lower speed, so it's not going up and down constantly.

One zip tie and five minutes of your time can yield you a car that starts without pressing the clutch. I know, because I did it to my car. (oh, no "clicky clicky" when shifting, either!)

[Peer]

MNBoxster wrote:
> Starter Buttons are just the Flavor of the Month
> right now what with the S2000 and all, and if
> you like them, that's OK.

Yea, I agree. And who'd like to be associated with Honda anyways?! Hence, I went with something slightly different for my Eunos roadster:

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~peer/roadster-starter.html

If I now only could build up my courage to do this hack also for the Box...

-- peer

[djomlas]

i made my boxster not use the clutch for starting, took me a minute. so now i just turn the key and beast starts up...that would be a good thing to do if you have a stat engine button
one zip tie did the trick :dance:

[Perfectlap]

ok so does that no clutch-start hack add more longevity to the clutch?
how is it done?