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jbar1 05-17-2024 05:34 AM

You certainly are approaching the job in the right way by researching as much as possible before jumping in. Your brothers taught you well.

LoneWolfGal 05-17-2024 11:46 AM

I'm stymied at square one. I'm trying to remove the hinge cover so I can disassemble the seat at the hinge. The cover just clips on — except for one part that extends under the side of the seat and is fastened with a large plastic screw through the outermost hole:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1715974223.jpg

Problem is, you can't get at the plastic screw easily. In fact, the only way you can even see it is to pry up the bottom edge of the seat with something. Has anyone run into this problem right out of the gate? I'm being super-cautious, because I don't want to break the hinge cover. It lists for $75!

Porsche design meeting:
"How can we prevent owners from doing their own repairs and maintenance?
"I've got if! We'll make things so inaccessible they can't get to them."
"Brilliant!"

elgyqc 05-17-2024 12:04 PM

I thought I had posted this yesterday... must have lost it somewhere. Here is my installation thread.

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/81934-reupholstering-boxster-seats-lseat-kit.html

I used zip ties... when working alone they allow you to connect the pieces loose and pull them tight.

elgyqc 05-17-2024 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal (Post 660787)
I'm stymied at square one. I'm trying to remove the hinge cover so I can disassemble the seat at the hinge. The cover just clips on — except for one part that extends under the side of the seat and is fastened with a large plastic screw through the outermost hole:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1715974223.jpg

Problem is, you can't get at the plastic screw easily. In fact, the only way you can even see it is to pry up the bottom edge of the seat with something. Has anyone run into this problem right out of the gate?

Porsche design meeting:
"How can we prevent owners from doing their own repairs and maintenance?
"I've got if! We'll make things so inaccessible they can't get to them."
"Brilliant!"

I don't remember having a problem there... does the plastic cap pop off the metal bracket?

redpepperracing 05-17-2024 12:49 PM

I don't know if this will give you detail you need, but Matt Ross on youtube did a video on it. If you want to skip to the seat part it starts about 3 minutes in.

LoneWolfGal 05-17-2024 02:22 PM

Got it! It was just a matter of pushing the pin up from the bottom through the center of the plastic "rivet," which is what Porsche calls the hard-to-get-at hinge cover fastener. Best of all, I managed to remove it without breaking it.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1715984156.jpg

Also, only the outside hinges are covered; the inside hinges are exposed. That means fewer covers to remove, but I'll have to buy the missing covers if I want the seats "correct." I hate to fork over $150 plus shipping for two pieces of plastic, so I'll check out eBay first.

KevinH1990 05-18-2024 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal (Post 660791)

Also, only the outside hinges are covered; the inside hinges are exposed. That means fewer covers to remove, but I'll have to buy the missing covers if I want the seats "correct." I hate to fork over $150 plus shipping for two pieces of plastic, so I'll check out eBay first.

Are you sure that the sides of the seats that fit against the center console have covers? I thought that because the center console makes it difficult to see the inboard sides of the seats Porsche decided to forego covers on that side. Also, covers might interfere with the seatbelt operation.

When it stops raining, I will check the seats in my car and see whether the inboard sides of the seats have covers.

Good luck with your project.

LoneWolfGal 05-18-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH1990 (Post 660800)
Are you sure that the sides of the seats that fit against the center console have covers? I thought that because the center console makes it difficult to see the inboard sides of the seats Porsche decided to forego covers on that side. Also, covers might interfere with the seatbelt operation.

When it stops raining, I will check the seats in my car and see whether the inboard sides of the seats have covers.

Good luck with your project.

No, I'm not sure. I just assumed they had covers, but I might be wrong. After all, I've been wrong a time or two in the past. Waiting to hear whether yours has covers.

LoneWolfGal 05-18-2024 01:35 PM

Work stoppage while waiting for a set of Torx bit sockets (Amazon, $14.99) that are supposed to be delivered today. Seems a Torx bolt at the hinge requires a larger size than the T40 in the set I had. The new set has bit sizes up to T70. That oughta be enough.

LoneWolfGal 05-18-2024 03:34 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/Tool1716075003.jpg

Naturally, I'm using only the best tools. (No double entendre intended.)

KevinH1990 05-19-2024 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal (Post 660803)
No, I'm not sure. I just assumed they had covers, but I might be wrong. After all, I've been wrong a time or two in the past. Waiting to hear whether yours has covers.

Mine do not have covers. One caveat - The seats that are in my car started life in a 996 turbo that the owner converted to a track car.

You may want to check for photos of other seats (e.g. for sale on various websites.) If you don't see any with inboard covers that should verify my observation. I don't see why Porsche would consider inboard covers necessary. I needed to push the seat cushion back to view the area.

pilot4fn 05-19-2024 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal (Post 660803)
No, I'm not sure. I just assumed they had covers, but I might be wrong. After all, I've been wrong a time or two in the past. Waiting to hear whether yours has covers.

The seats have those covers only outside. Attacehd is the seat part pages.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716139957.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716139990.jpg

LoneWolfGal 05-19-2024 11:48 AM

Thanks, Kevin and my fellow pilot. It makes sense that they didn't have the covers on the inside hinges to begin with. The seats in mine had never been removed. I really had to reef on a 1/2" breaker bar to break the seat bolts loose. The factory must've tightened them to 90 lbs. of torque. Anyway, now I won't have to order a set of inside covers. Best of all, I won't have to install them!

husker boxster 05-20-2024 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal (Post 660804)
Work stoppage while waiting for a set of Torx bit sockets (Amazon, $14.99) that are supposed to be delivered today. Seems a Torx bolt at the hinge requires a larger size than the T40 in the set I had. The new set has bit sizes up to T70. That oughta be enough.

It's not a project unless you have to buy a new tool. I had to buy 13 new tools for my '87 928.

LoneWolfGal 05-22-2024 12:23 PM

Here's where I'm at now. The driver's seat bottom has been stripped down to the foam. Which is intact, by the way, so I don't need to replace any. Have I mentioned that I'm the slowest mechanic, paint prepper, and upholsterer in the world? I make no apology, I'm sorry.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716409098.jpg

LoneWolfGal 05-27-2024 02:55 PM

I'm revising this post. Please check back.

dghii 05-28-2024 05:10 PM

I used small wire ties instead of hog rings to secure my leather to the seat. Its been two years and all good!

LoneWolfGal 05-28-2024 05:39 PM

Progress report

I have successfully fumbled my way through installing one of Lseat's covers on the bottom seat cushion, driver's side:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716943379.jpg

If I were being paid by the hour I'd already be rich. Lordy, but that leather is (1) thick, (2) stiff, and (3) hard to manipulate. However, I found that a hair dryer, used judiciously, softens it appreciably and makes it a bit more supple. It's looking halfway decent. A little heat/steam should take care of those wrinkles.

But check out the Lseat's edge:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716943436.jpg

It's stitched with gray thread. Unfortunately, it's visible; the seat looks like it has a fringe at the bottom. Now have a look at the factory cover. The leather is wrapped around the bottom edge of the seat and the cover's edge is not visible.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716943471.jpg

Call me picky, but I don't like the gray fringe. That's one of the ways Lseat's covers differ from the factory covers, besides thicker leather. Another departure is in the thickness of the plastic edging that locks into plastic hooks down in the foam's nooks and crannies. I found the nooks weren't too bad, but the crannies were murder. * rimshot *

Anyway, I'm stuck with the Lseat product. I'm committed. I'll probably dye the fringe black. As for the slightly thicker plastic edging, it works. You just have to reef on it a bit harder.

NOTE: I had intended to revise my previous post, but inserting new photos when editing turned out to be problematic.

LoneWolfGal 05-28-2024 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dghii (Post 660903)
I used small wire ties instead of hog rings to secure my leather to the seat. Its been two years and all good!

I appreciate the tip. I guess some folks have used zip ties instead of hog rings. However, a friend loaned me his hog ring pliers and about 500 hog rings, so I'll probably give them a try, just so I can say I've used hog rings.

Stiglitz 05-28-2024 06:21 PM

I thought the same thing about the edges
That trim actually has to be flipped over, it's
A total pita, especially the corners, if i have a pic I'll send it to you

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal (Post 660905)
Progress
report


I have successfully fumbled my way through installing one of Lseat's covers on the bottom seat cushion, driver's side:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716943379.jpg

If I were being paid by the hour I'd already be rich. Lordy, but that leather is (1) thick, (2) stiff, and (3) hard to manipulate. However, I found that a hair dryer, used judiciously, softens it appreciably and makes it a bit more supple. It's looking halfway decent. A little heat/steam should take care of those wrinkles.

But check out the Lseat's edge:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716943436.jpg

It's stitched with gray thread. Unfortunately, it's visible; the seat looks like it has a fringe at the bottom. Now have a look at the factory cover. The leather is wrapped around the bottom edge of the seat and the cover's edge is not visible.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1716943471.jpg

Call me picky, but I don't like the gray fringe. That's one of the ways Lseat's covers differ from the factory covers, besides thicker leather. Another departure is in the thickness of the plastic edging that locks into plastic hooks down in the foam's nooks and crannies. I found the nooks weren't too bad, but the crannies were murder. * rimshot *

Anyway, I'm stuck with the Lseat product. I'm committed. I'll probably dye the fringe black. As for the slightly thicker plastic edging, it works. You just have to reef on it a bit harder.

NOTE: I had intended to revise my previous post, but inserting new photos when editing turned out to be problematic.



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