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Thanks so much for the info..
Battery is newer and tests about 12.5 and 14.4 running
Did some quick tests all from front of relay panel
pole 30 and 86 both show 12V key off OR on
87 is zero volts too ground
85 is 3.5 volts...I think this explains the 8 volt reading between 85 and 86 which I think needs 12 volts to actuate the relay...so need to find why pole 85 is at 3 or so volts
Funny thing is that the car actually starts ...just stalls every so often
replaced the ignition switch in the spring of this year with a vw replacement...havent had any running issues since then...other than that just the window regulator that I just replaced
Cheers
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