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Voltage is still there at pin 30 with the key off, but car seems to be running fine yesterday with no stalling issues, although I didn't drive it anywhere. Looking at the Bentley book it looks as though fuse C4 runs to a hi current fuse that comes from the battery and I don't see where it switches with the ignition on or off. C1 -C4 are all tied together so I pulled C1-C3 to see if the 12 V would go away at pin 30 but no dice. I tested the relay again with a lower voltage applied and it actuates at 8 volts so the 3.5 volts coming from the ecu shouldn't be a problem. I also pulled the ecu cables off and cleaned the pins. One strange thing is that my brake wear sensor light on the cluster has now gone out...the pads are fine but I thought one of the sensor wires was shorted causing the light to be on. Im going to keep investigating as I don't see what could be causing the no start issue and I don't really trust it to drive it any distance. Going to start looking further at grounds and the cluster...try to clear up some codes as you suggested...thanks again for the help!...cheers
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