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Old 07-27-2020, 07:27 AM   #1
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Good points I suppose, but I’d be curious how many people grab the torque wrench every time they wrench anything. Acknowledging Pedro’s point that there are times when they are definitely called for, developing a “feel” for how tight to tighten nuts/bolts is nevertheless a handy skill. There are places where it is virtually impossible to use a torque wrench—it just won't fit. And regarding crush washers, I never suggested that they last forever. (Nor did piper, far as I can tell.)

In any case, this seems to be working out well: if these offers keep rolling in I’ll not have to worry about ever buying one again!
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Old 07-27-2020, 07:49 AM   #2
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All of you crush washer re-users disgust me. It's called a crush washer because it compresses and deforms to create the seal when you tighten the plug to the correct torque. One time use and then dispose.

I have never been in the middle of an oil change and then suddenly realized that I was changing the oil and needed to gather the supplies to do it. I remove that plug with planning and intent. How do you people even make it out of bed in the morning? Does your head hit the floor before feet?

I'm gonna start listing 1,500 mile oil and 'used once' crush washers for sale on eBay. It seems that there is a market.
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Old 07-27-2020, 08:06 AM   #3
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So be disgusted. Without justification.

You suppose for a second that we “crush washer re-users” are so dumb that we’d continue the practice if it didn’t work out just fine? A dozen drops, 40 years of oil changes. Not even enough (by a long shot) to have to top off following discovery and correction. Statistically that amounts to an unchallengeable “perfect” in my book, batting virtually 1.000. And my one “out”? Didn’t even come close to costing me the game.

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Waaaaay too many engineers on this forum all debating torque specs of drain plugs... WHO uses a torque wrench on a drain plug?!?!

I've done roughly 20000 oil changes, nary a single oil out or leak, and I've never had to use a torque wrench. Never had an issue getting a plug out either (worst case you cut the plug down and hammer on a smaller socket).

Seems like using a torque wrench on a drain plug is not only un-professional its un-advisable.

EDIT: oh and the crush washer thing... I've changed MAYBE 5 of those in my life.
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Waaaaay too many engineers on this forum all debating torque specs of drain plugs... WHO uses a torque wrench on a drain plug?!?!

I've done roughly 20000 oil changes, nary a single oil out or leak, and I've never had to use a torque wrench. Never had an issue getting a plug out either (worst case you cut the plug down and hammer on a smaller socket).

Seems like using a torque wrench on a drain plug is not only un-professional its un-advisable.

EDIT: oh and the crush washer thing... I've changed MAYBE 5 of those in my life.
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