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Old 06-12-2020, 10:58 AM   #1
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We live in the world with accounting rules. As soon as LN extends the warranty, the accountants rules will cause them to hold a higher reserve for warranty repairs. Thus not as much profit and/or not as much money to invest in the next product. Eventually the IMS buys will dry up.

Having talked to the inventors, they have high confidence that the probable lifetime is ...

Heck, most of their dual rows are now beyond the 5 year point and I don't see any of the 5 forums I visit daily filled with tales of woe.

If I were making this choice, if I were investing in lots of preventative measures inside the engine, no doubt which I'd specify.

If I were to look hard at my situation and only see the car staying with me for 3-5 years it would be a different choice.

28 other failure points and driver error can total the car for practical purposes.
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Old 06-12-2020, 04:45 PM   #2
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We live in the world with accounting rules. As soon as LN extends the warranty, the accountants rules will cause them to hold a higher reserve for warranty repairs. Thus not as much profit and/or not as much money to invest in the next product.
Accounting rules? They aren't publically traded, and they don't need cash reserve for warranty even if they were. If they extended the warranty, they would buy insurance; they even have a cost-positive option with offering insurance as an add-on. given the stated track record, insurance companies would consider this free money.
invest in next product? They are dealers for various manufacturers and automotive fabricators. They didnt "invent" anything when it comes to the IMS retrofit.

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Oddly enough, the person who discovered that the IMS could be replaceable despite Porsche's claims to the contrary was also named Tony.

As I was in pretty much constant contact with them (Jake and Charles) as they were inventing (and investing in) the process of providing a kit for a mechanic who had never done a replacement, I recall the frequent failures before the first product was complete. I was interested as I had a Boxster at the time and was also in charge of the production and productization of an item that couldn't afford to fail.

So I term it inventing if you are the first to produce a kit that may include parts, instructions and tools. And in the early days customer support to assure the product got a fair reception. No one else was offering that at the time.

There are patents on some of the LN/Flat6 IMS products. "The Solution" has three.

You may not like the choice they made. But recall just how old these engines are and how they don't have control over who does the install or who does the diagnosis saying that it was their product that failed. I sure wouldn't back any warranty under those conditions.
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Oddly enough, the person who discovered that the IMS could be replaceable despite Porsche's claims to the contrary was also named Tony.

As I was in pretty much constant contact with them (Jake and Charles) as they were inventing (and investing in) the process of providing a kit for a mechanic who had never done a replacement, I recall the frequent failures before the first product was complete. I was interested as I had a Boxster at the time and was also in charge of the production and productization of an item that couldn't afford to fail.

So I term it inventing if you are the first to produce a kit that may include parts, instructions and tools. And in the early days customer support to assure the product got a fair reception. No one else was offering that at the time.

There are patents on some of the LN/Flat6 IMS products. "The Solution" has three.

You may not like the choice they made. But recall just how old these engines are and how they don't have control over who does the install or who does the diagnosis saying that it was their product that failed. I sure wouldn't back any warranty under those conditions.
I saw that you also posted on Feelyx's thread. Were you in contact with him as well as Jake & Charles?
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No I never talked to Tony. I was told by Jake that is where he got the idea that it could be done.
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No I never talked to Tony. I was told by Jake that is where he got the idea that it could be done.
Ahh...Thanks. I thought his name was Tim.

So, from what I've read, Tony sold them the patent, although he can no longer discuss it. And now you've confirmed that neither Jake nor Charles figured out that the IMSB can be R&R'd?
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So, from what I've read, Tony sold them the patent, although he can no longer discuss it.
No, because if he did, it would be listed as being invented by one person, and then reassigned to Jake and Charles, and there is no such information contained in any of the patents on the IMS Solution.
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