Direct oil feed

[Alan Mackew]

Hi everyone,

my 80th birthday coming up in May, thought I might get my 2003 2.7 (facelift ) Tip fitted with the direct oil feed IMS solution as a present for myself.

(I'm hoping one of my boys might like to take it over when I can't drive anymore )

Has anyone had this done to their car ? any complaints or comments appreciated, car has done about 60,000 kms so far.

Cheers Alan

[Black Knight]

I had one installed as preventative right after I purchased my '02 2.7 in December 2019. I had the IMS bearing done, RMS, clutch and the DOF. I did it for peace of mind and have never looked back. Seemed like the most straight forward solution to me after countless hours of research both in person and online, even spoke to Pedro directly and he had a hand in its development. Do it and enjoy the driving.

[rfuerst911sc]

Other than the initial hit to the wallet there is nothing not to like about the IMS Solution . Been running mine for several years the peace of mind it provides is priceless in my opinion .

[Oldcarguy]

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

Other than the initial hit to the wallet there is nothing not to like about the IMS Solution . Been running mine for several years the peace of mind it provides is priceless in my opinion .

I agree regarding the ‘IMS Solution’ which will be installed during my 3.8 F6I upgrade this fall, but I think the OP is referring to DOF to a roller bearing as ‘a solution’ to address the IMS issue rather than referring to F6I’s ‘IMS Solution’ which uses an oil fed plain bearing.

[JayG]

Oh boy, another IMS thread

[paulofto]

Originally Posted by JayG

Oh boy, another IMS thread

It's a gift from Porsche that keeps on giving!

[BobRickel]

i did the EPS IMS solution to my 1997 Boxster in 2014 when it had 40K miles on it. I did it along with the AOS and coolant tank, water pump, belts, any and all rubber on engine, RMS, spark plugs and tubes, front motor mount, and anything else I could think of just for piece of mind. It was a low mileage car but was 17 years old at that time. Have not had the first problem with it since. It just turned 69K miles and no problems and total peace of mind for the last 6 years.

[Alan Mackew]

Hi everyone

now our central heating has packed up, 7000 $A so will have to defer the D.O.F on the boxster for a while. Thanks to those who provided some opinions,

Alan

[aparke4]

Originally Posted by Alan Mackew

Hi everyone

now our central heating has packed up, 7000 $A so will have to defer the D.O.F on the boxster for a while. Thanks to those who provided some opinions,

Alan

Sorry to hear!

Where does the oil fed kit plumb into? I am on the prevent bandwagon with my 02 and its just a well maintained car and want to keep it a while.

[Alan Mackew]

Hi APARKE4

the oiled is taken from a modified oil filter unit via an external feed pipe to the new bearing.

A lot of information on the internet including fitting videos, thanks for the empathy, can't use the Boxster at the moment (self Isolating )

Cheers Alan

[kk2002s]

It finally hit me -- there is only one true solution to the IMSB that will allow you to sleep at night

SELL your Boxster
Doesn't cost a dime

[aparke4]

Originally Posted by Alan Mackew

Hi APARKE4

the oiled is taken from a modified oil filter unit via an external feed pipe to the new bearing.

A lot of information on the internet including fitting videos, thanks for the empathy, can't use the Boxster at the moment (self Isolating )

Cheers Alan

Right on thx found a few examples... I currently have the filter adapter so it looks like a I would need the new piece instead of plumbing off the motor (for an easier install).

[aparke4]

Originally Posted by kk2002s

It finally hit me -- there is only one true solution to the IMSB that will allow you to sleep at night

SELL your Boxster
Doesn't cost a dime

Porsche's are like boats: tons of maintenance and upkeep but man when they work, its worth the pain!! My boxster puts a smile on my face and through the help here, some good ramps and jackstands I have done a lot of the work myself to curb some of the major labor expenses which is around 100$ an hour or more no matter what shop I go to.

[mikefocke]

The DOF (Direct Oil Feed) is one product. The Solution is a totally different product. Different companies, different location on the engine the oil is taken from. Also different bearings, different amount of oil fed to the bearings. And certainly different proponents in the Porsche community.

[Alan Mackew]

selling is certainly an option. Having owned many sports cars and speciall interest cars over the years, from vintage to modern, sensible decisions wthen it comes to cars are not my Forte.

I owned a 1997 MGF and a Caterham Super Seven a few tears back both fitted with the same Rover K Series engines (also in the early Elise ) these engines are renown for head gasket failure and it happened to me on both of my cars at different times, I still really liked them, however.

The difference with the Boxster is apparently failure is without warning and expensive to fix whereas on both my K Series engines there was warning in the form o obvious coolant leak from the head gasket and relatively cheap to fix.

In many respects the Boxster is the best all round useable sports car I have owned apart from the spectre of the IMS ( an unforgivable fault in a car from a manufacturer with such a fine history.)

Cheers Alan

[kk2002s]

Originally Posted by Alan Mackew

selling is certainly an option. Having owned many sports cars and speciall interest cars over the years, from vintage to modern, sensible decisions wthen it comes to cars are not my Forte.

I owned a 1997 MGF and a Caterham Super Seven a few tears back both fitted with the same Rover K Series engines (also in the early Elise ) these engines are renown for head gasket failure and it happened to me on both of my cars at different times, I still really liked them, however.

The difference with the Boxster is apparently failure is without warning and expensive to fix whereas on both my K Series engines there was warning in the form o obvious coolant leak from the head gasket and relatively cheap to fix.

In many respects the Boxster is the best all round useable sports car I have owned apart from the spectre of the IMS ( an unforgivable fault in a car from a manufacturer with such a fine history.)

Cheers Alan

Just joking Though I did trade my Box last November for of all things an off road Pickup truck. I never did the IMSB and the car gave me 6 years/55k miles of enjoyment (Most fun car I ever had). I wasn't using it much and I needed something to help me move and haul new toys. But I did think while reading this thread that I never think about my IMSB exploding and should I change it and what type to change too.

[geekdaddy]

SO much controversy about the IMSB, seriousness (or not), root-cause and solutions.

Is it the faulty seal and corrosive oil that gets sucked in?
Is it too much load on the bearing?
Is it poor lubrication?
Is it all of the above?

Plenty of debate out there from a lot of smart folks. Who often don't agree.

After reviewing them all, I decided on the EPS roller bearing and oil feed. Is it inferior to the LN solution? Is it better? I don't know. But after reading fdbk from all the experts it made sense to me. It's not the cheapest option but reasonably priced. ...and pretty sure it's better than what came out of the factory.

LN seems to have the best and well-known reputation and I expect if installed by an approved technician will add to resale value more than other options.

If you know or anticipate that a clutch job is required, seems practical for most of us to inspect and likely replace the bearing and a variety of seals and wearable items -- if only for preventative maintenance. I like to do my own work but don't like frequently pulling the tranny so it's worth doing a little more work and spending a little more to reduce risk of failures.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by geekdaddy

...I decided on the EPS roller bearing and oil feed...

Did you punch a hole behind the oil pump or did you use an external feed? The EPS system intrigued me even though, as you said, the LN system is more popular.

[geekdaddy]

Will punch behind the oil pump per their recommendations but haven't done it yet!

Originally Posted by piper6909

Did you punch a hole behind the oil pump or did you use an external feed? The EPS system intrigued me even though, as you said, the LN system is more popular.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by geekdaddy

Will punch behind the oil pump per their recommendations but haven't done it yet!

Yeah, that's mainly the part that intrigued me. I was actually wondering about using a new OEM bearing, pulling off the seals and using the EPS oil feed method. But I have a Tiptronic, so unless I have a reason to go in there I probably won't do it.

Let us know how it goes, please!