sick of ims bearing

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Homeoboxter

There are two problems with these experiments:

1) The bearing is more submerged in oil unless you keep your oil level below the minimum.

2) He spins a whole bearing in oil demonstrating that oil gets thrown out completely due to centrifugal force. In fact, the center stud and the inner race of the bearing is immobile and constantly supplied by oil leaking into the gap between the bearing and the flange inside the bore in the crankcase, as shown on the picture. It`s hard to imagine such circumstances when oil can`t get there when the oil level is at least half way up to the top of the shaft.

Pedro has been working on Boxsters for a long time and where he says the oil is sitting at is probably correct.

Pedro started the injecting oil into the bearing deal with his "DOF" kit and Flat 6 Innovations changed over to injecting oil into the bearing with their "Solution" kit.

So with Flat 6 Innovation changing over to injecting oil into the bearing, I believe Pedro has merit to his claim.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

Pedro has been working on Boxsters for a long time and where he says the oil is sitting at is probably correct.

Pedro started the injecting oil into the bearing deal with his "DOF" kit and Flat 6 Innovations changed over to injecting oil into the bearing with their "Solution" kit.

So with Flat 6 Innovation changing over to injecting oil into the bearing, I believe Pedro has merit to his claim.

Sorry, but it was the other way around; Jake Raby got the patent both for the solid bearing and the oil feed, which is why Pedro could never lay claim to it or patent it (which the original developer - Tuner Motorsports - tried, but was denied. Pedro is only licensee of this product, not the developer).

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Sorry, but it was the other way around; Jake Raby got the patent both for the solid bearing and the oil feed, which is why Pedro could never lay claim to it or patent it (which the original developer tried, but was denied. Pedro is only licensee of this product, not the developer).

BS, Pedro came out with the "DOF" long before Flat 6 Innovations came out with the "Solution" and the "DOF" is patented.

https://youtu.be/hzUq2DFpeKw?t=830

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

BS, Pedro came out with the "DOF" long before Flat 6 Innovations came out with the "Solution" and the "DOF" is patented.

https://youtu.be/hzUq2DFpeKw?t=830

Sorry, but again you have it backwards: Jake filed his first patent application several months before the Tuner RS DOF came out, otherwise he would not have been granted the multiple patents he won for the IMS Solution, and Tuner would have had a case for their patent application, which was denied.

[The Radium King]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Sorry, but it was the other way around; Jake Raby got the patent both for the solid bearing and the oil feed, which is why Pedro could never lay claim to it or patent it (which the original developer - Tuner Motorsports - tried, but was denied. Pedro is only licensee of this product, not the developer).

i don't even think it was TuneRS that developed it, was it? I recall reading the big long thread on ... pelican? ... where it was just some guy working on it, developing testing jigs, etc. i'd thought that TuneRS might have bought the idea from him?

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by The Radium King

i don't even think it was TuneRS that developed it, was it? I recall reading the big long thread on ... pelican? ... where it was just some guy working on it, developing testing jigs, etc. i'd thought that TuneRS might have bought the idea from him?

Pedro tells us exactly how it was developed, but he did not mention the name of the company he worked with. However, TuneRS is located in Florida.

https://youtu.be/hzUq2DFpeKw?t=804

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

Pedro tells us exactly how it was developed, but he did not mention the name of the company he worked with. However, TuneRS is located in Florida.

https://youtu.be/hzUq2DFpeKw?t=804

You can read all about Tuner's DOF development here IMS Bearing Direct Oil Feed (DOF)® | Lubricate & Cool your IMS Bearing – TuneRS Motorsports

[Homeoboxter]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

Pedro has been working on Boxsters for a long time and where he says the oil is sitting at is probably correct.

Pedro started the injecting oil into the bearing deal with his "DOF" kit and Flat 6 Innovations changed over to injecting oil into the bearing with their "Solution" kit.

So with Flat 6 Innovation changing over to injecting oil into the bearing, I believe Pedro has merit to his claim.

Regardless of how long he`s been working on Porsches the oil level sits at a much higher level even if the the oil level is at the minimum sign of the dipstick. You can find info about it on my show&tell thread if interested. Everyone who makes a bunch of money on these kits has an interest in telling you DOF is critical and your engine will fall apart if you don`t have it installed.

Actually, apparently now if you have an IMS kit to sell you have to add DOF to it, otherwise it won`t sell, regardless of being necessary or not. I just looked at the EPS website about the roller bearing and it`s kind of funny that they also add DOF in their kit even though they think it`s unnecessary

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Homeoboxter

Regardless of how long he`s been working on Porsches the oil level sits at a much higher level even if the the oil level is at the minimum sign of the dipstick. You can find info about it on my show&tell thread if interested. Everyone who makes a bunch of money on these kits has an interest in telling you DOF is critical and your engine will fall apart if you don`t have it installed.

Actually, apparently now if you have an IMS kit to sell you have to add DOF to it, otherwise it won`t sell, regardless of being necessary or not. I just looked at the EPS website about the roller bearing and it`s kind of funny that they also add DOF in their kit even though they think it`s unnecessary

Just watched the PCA Spotlight: Types of IMS bearing retrofit kits youtube video that has Jake Raby in it and they put up a notice that you can remove the seal and there is no need for direct oil feeding.



So what's all the hype over the direct oil feeding solutions?

[Homeoboxter]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

Just watched the PCA Spotlight: Types of IMS bearing retrofit kits youtube video that has Jake Raby in it and they put up a notice that you can remove the seal and there is no need for direct oil feeding.



So what's all the hype over the direct oil feeding solutions?

That`s what I`m talking about.

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Homeoboxter

That`s what I`m talking about.

Man this pisses me off. Pedro is straight up lying. Pedro says the oil is lower then it actually is and the bearing will shed all the oil and does this on video. PCA says you can remove the seal and be just fine with the engine oil keeping the bearing lubricated.

My apologies Homeoboxter, you are correct.

Pedro says the "DOF" is patented, JFP in PA says Jake Raby has the patent on it, I put up the video with the words coming out of Pedro's mouth that the part is patented. JFP in PA comes back and says that's still wrong. So I go to checking on the patents and Jake Raby does have the patent on it under IMS Sollutions LLC.

My apologies JFP in PA, you are correct and here is the patent on it.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8992089B2/en

[mikefocke]

There are three types of bearings being used in IMS replacement kits. Ball, Roller and Flat. What may be appropriate for one type may not be for another and yet may be required for a third. The larger the bearing surface the more heat must be dissipated and thus roller thrust and flat bearings require different oil amounts than ball bearings.