A question about Federal tires
Well with my summer repairs I found my rear tires to be in terrible condition on the very inside. Quite honestly with all that's going on right I cannot afford a new set of Pilots like I would prefer. My front tires still have a good deep tread. I found some tires on ebay for 99 each and was curious about the brand "Federal"
I do not track this car, just casual driving....also the size on my car now (and for last 4 years) is 265 35 ZR18 , the ebay parts application says these tires will not fit my car for the rear ?? ( 01 S) Thanks for the input in advance Dwight |
Buying tires on ebay...yikes. look, I understand I'm not in your position, but tires are something you simply can't skimp on. There are only 4 points where your car touches the ground...you have to have good tires.
My recommendation, either grab a pair of rear pilots to match your fronts and leave the fronts on. I cant imagine it would be terribly overpriced if you did tire rack or similar. Or, look at sumitumo zIIIs. That's what I have on mine. They were about as cheap as your ebay tires and a lot of guys like them. They also wear better than the pilots (rating wise). |
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I have been running Sumitomo HTR ZIII for a few years and like them a lot. You can't beat the price, either. ;) |
Try Walmart and see what they have. You're obviously looking for something cheap, that's black, round, and fits your car. Walmart or Discount Tire can provide service after the sale. I have Riken tires from Tire Rack--less than $400 for a set, they are decent (cover all the requirements I've listed,) and are manufactured by Michelin in Indonesia.
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Another issue with the federals might be that they are not XL (extra load) rated which I believe our cars require for rear tires.
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Y'all are killing me here.
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As an FYI, I saw these listed the other day:
http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-cayman-parts-sale-wanted/73197-sale-set-17-inch-%93s%94-wheels-new-tires-%24500-00-a.html I almost responded, but I really don't want another set of identical rims. |
For the purposes that PD states I see no problem going with a lesser known tire manufacturer . As just a weekend toy with no track time he should be fine . I am currently running Sumitomo HTR's and I like them just as much as the Continental's that came off the car . I would recommend you go to your local tire dealers and see what they have to offer , you might be surprised . Most places will sell a good/better/best and you pick what you can afford . Plus you establish a relationship for future purchases .
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I use Federal 595 RS-R as my trackday rubber and I am very happy with them. 225/265-18. Also have used them a lot on the road this summer and they are suitable for this as well. But watch out in wet conditions - very slippery. But on dry tarmac they really stick all the way - a comforting feeling. A cheapish alternative for non pro drivers. |
the firestone firehawk indy 500's are quite good and very affordable. I got a whole set of 4 this summer with a $70 rebate for $472.
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+1 Very reasonable |
Hello Dwight,
As already mentioned, all that is supporting your car on the road is the four contact patches that are the size of your palm, IMHO, you could be putting your car (and yourself) on harms way, specially on a wet road. I noticed that when the rear tires are worn the end is no longer stable.. However, many of us are :( on a day to day struggle to meet ends, and having four cars on the house does not help much, and as you know tires are not cheap.. A few years ago I needed tires (with no cash flow..) and the local 'Just Tires' offered a Good Year credit card that offers 6 months No interest, so as long as you pay the balance within six months you are free to go. Needless to say, my tire bill never ends because as as soon as I end paying tires on one car there is always another one on the queue.. :p Good luck! |
c'mon you guys.... there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with Federal Tires. BEST? Not by a long shot. But to suggest that somehow you need Michelins or Pirellis or something for normal driving is just bosh. (jdraupp, I'm talking to you)
I'm usually a Michelin guy, myself, because Michelin gave me a seeming never-ending supply of tires when I was racing superbikes. So, loyalty and all that. But right now I'm running a set of Federal 595-RS-RR on my spare wheels for track use, and they are perfectly serviceable. Look, PDwight: buy the tires you can afford, or rationalize. Make sure you've always got adequate tread to shed water... but I don't care if that tread is American, French, Italian or Chinese: It'll be just fine. When you start feeling like the tire you've got isn't up to the driving you;re doing, then maybe it's time to start looking at an upgrade. But until then, don't sweat it. (For the record: if this were a sportbike forum, my advice would be very different. For what should be very obvious reasons) |
I'm with Maytag on this.
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If you examine a little closer, you'll see that I myself run sumitumo tires on my boxster and I'd hardly call them high quality or expensive. However, I did quite a bit of research both through road test reviews, published statistics and personal testimony. I also bought them from tire rack that did plenty of their own research. I recommended a pair of rear pilots because that's what he said he had on the fronts and they were in good shape. Mismatching tires is not a good way to go. If the federals have good reviews then go for them. At the end of the day it's your car and your butt in the seat. But don't put words in my mouth. |
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Hmmm.... I may owe you an apology. I took the aggregate of what I was reading in your posts, and thought I understood what you were saying. Now, as you challenge that, I realize there were other ways to read your comments. My apologies. I'll make no excuses; my bad entirely. Truly, JDraupp, I'm sorry. I so often on this forum find commenters trying to squeeze the fun out of these cars by throwing wet blankets on the guys who can afford to do "good enough", but not "best". This looked to be one of those times, and it appears I jumped to the wrong conclusion. |
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Tires, oil, IMS. Three incideniary topics on this forum. |
Thanks Maytag
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Now for the Water Pump and OAS as soon as parts arrive and I get some time. |
I think a bigger issue other than brand is that you are going to put a totally different tire on the rear that is new, vs an old different tire on the front. 4yrs is getting close to “old” in terms of rubber and I’m not so sure putting new with old is the best option. Boxsters do eat rear tires, but there is a point where the whole set needs to be done. Where you are with tire age, I’d put the Federals all the way around most likely.
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At least if PD replaces just the rears, it will understeer, not oversteer in any kind of dramatic driving situation. Understeer is safer than oversteer for 99% of drivers.
My Boxster had Federals on it when I bought it, and they seemed to be just fine, especially for anything you might be doing for street driving. They worked very well in the rain. I did replace them (which was hard because they only had a few hundred miles on them) with much higher performance tires because I was going to be doing track days, and wanted something that was more biased towards that. |
For my DD street set, I use Firehawk Indy 500s. I did a lot of research and concluded that performance/cost was excellent for these. They are also good in the dry/wet for HPDE. However, I've had vibration issues and had the wheels/tires checked a couple times by a very reputable shop. Roadforce was 32 lbs on left rear and about 15 on the rest. They said the tire was bad and the others borderline. Might have to return under warranty.
For my HPDE set, I use Federal 595 RSR after a recommendation from my Indie shop. I'm on my second set now and I can say they are good tires for the dry track, and again, performance/price is hard to beat (~$400 for the set). Pretty similar to R-Comps, they don't communicate much until they break loose. I can get 2 sets of these vs Nitto NT01s. |
For what it's worth, both of my P-Cars are on Hankook Ventus V12 evo2s. I would age-out the Michelins before I'd wear them out, and the Hankooks have been giving me a great experience so far (second full set on the Boxster, had done one set of rears in between). My Box had Michelin PS2s on it when I got it (low on tread), and I replaced them with PS A/S3 (no idea why...).
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