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Old 08-31-2006, 02:29 PM   #1
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Snows on separate rims. All seasons will get you home if it happens to snow before you switch - but I wouldn't dream of running them year-round. The problem is that if you do get all season tires that are fairly decent in the snow - you'll hate them in the summer. I certainly would race on winters when it's dry out but I never felt like I was sliding around either. But there's definately a difference in dry grip between summer, all season, and winters.

I don't know about 18's - but I managed to pick up a set of 17" rims and snow tires last year for under $750 including shipping (Ebay). The rims are identical to my OEM and might even be in a bit better shape (hmmm - note to self - switch rims).....
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:17 PM   #2
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Hi,

Maybe even more than the Snows vs All-Season debate is the width of the Tire. The stock widths for the Boxster are waay too wide for winter driving, they will plane too easy and do not have enough weight per sq. in. on them for safety.

Of course, if the roads are clear and dry, then the issue of S vs A-S is moot, they'll both provide the same level of control and safety.

But, in the muck, the slightly more soft compounds of the Snow tires won't mean nearly as much as the width. This is because your car weighs X, and all that weight is is borne by the Contact Patch (maybe 8"/tire x 4 for a total of 32"). Now, let's just use a rounded 3,000lbs. for the weight of the car, passenger, fuel, etc. That comes to 93.75lbs./sq. in. of contact patch. But, if by going to a narrower tire, and therefore a smaller Contact Patch, you would place more weight per sq. in. on the road which is going to be harder to break loose and will give more precise braking. Let's just say the narrower tires yielded a total Contact Patch of 24 sq. in., well now you are placing 125 lbs./sq. in. on the road.

Narrower tires will give you the best control and safety. The tires will be much less prone to planing up on the snow, traction will be much improved. I would go with 185 in front and 205 in the rear for optimal benefit (plus they'll be cheaper too). The aesthetics will change somewhat dramatically, but so what, it's Winter and no one is standing looking at your car anyway. Besides, think of your car's aesthetic if it has just sideswiped a guardrail or parked car because the tires gave way.

The Boxster in Winter is merely a conveyance anyway. A Car which must be used to get from A to B because the owner doesn't have another car. You shouldn't drive it with enthusiasm anyway - bad for the car in general and unless you know exactly what to expect of the road ahead, it's just foolhardy...

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Old 08-31-2006, 03:51 PM   #3
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I've got a set of 17" OEM S wheels but I don't want to touch them because they are going back on the car nice and pristine when the car is sold. And I don't want to store two sets of wheels. Better to leave the car at home on inclement days if I'm going to skip 18" snow tires.

I got stuck in a rainstorm that quickly became a blizzard a harrowing expereince if I ever had one. One minute I'm driving slowly at 30mph and the next I'm spinning like Gilles Panizzi. Had to dump the car in a sketchy area and leave it under 30 inches of snow for two days.

How fast can you drive on Snow tires? Does it feel allot worse than an All Season or Summer Performance tire? Hitting 90mph in this car seems inately unavoidable. Is that too fast for a full snow tire? I'm sure the manufacturer has way cautious guidelines for legal reasons but what's the deal with that?
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:58 PM   #4
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If you only have the Boxster and you must drive it in all conditions, then separate, smaller, narrower, winter wheels+tires would be my way to go. Personally, I'm just storing mine for the winter.
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:05 PM   #5
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All season Pirelli P-Zero Nero M + S here in Chicago for the past 2 winters with no trouble. I drive it year round in all types of weather...I just make sure not to venture out when the snow is REALLY coming down. This usually happens at night and I'm already home from work. The roads in Chicago are cleared off very well and for the most part very quickly. Weather reports seem to be much better in predicting snow and this makes it a bit easier to plan my next day!
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