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Toyotaandporsche 05-09-2018 07:57 AM

Best tires
 
Looking to get new tires, was wondering which tires will last the longest, my Hankook tires are wearing pretty quickly.

jdraupp 05-09-2018 08:28 AM

Welcome to the forum.

Just friendly advice, oil and tires are real hot bed issues here.

To answer your question generally, if you want the best wear then you're going to have to sacrifice performance and go with an all season. These cars eat tires and brakes for breakfast. Rears will obviously wear faster.

Use the search function as I know this has been discussed at length along with pros and cons.

kk2002s 05-09-2018 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdraupp (Post 569905)
Welcome to the forum.

Just friendly advice, oil and tires are real hot bed issues here.

To answer your question generally, if you want the best wear then you're going to have to sacrifice performance and go with an all season. These cars eat tires and brakes for breakfast. Rears will obviously wear faster.

Use the search function as I know this has been discussed at length along with pros and cons.

+1 on above.
Summer perf. tires you will have to re-calibrate your basis of longevity.
I think in terms of 20-22k miles for the rear for a decent summer perf. tire
They will wear out on the inside first

BIGJake111 05-09-2018 09:53 AM

Tire wear is a trade off for performance.

I had Michelin pilot supersports (I believe now replaced by PS4S in the Michelin lineup) and was very pleased with them. Wear was acceptable for the performance, fantastic grip in the wet, minimal road noise, and unbeatable performance, just don’t get caught out in the snow.

boxfix 05-09-2018 10:05 AM

5I know some will wrinkle their noses on this recommendation, but they have been great tires on my 2003 Boxster and less than $350 shipped to my door. Sure I have to pay $80 to have them mounted and balanced!!!

And these are GREAT tires made by Michelin.

I have NO affiliation with tirerack. I have these tires on my Boxster and 2 of our Saab 9-5 Aero wagons and they are great.


RIKEN
RAPTOR ZR
Ultra High Performance Summer
Front: 205/50ZR17 89W
Serv. Desc: 89W
UTQG: 300 AA A
Qty:Per Tire:

2
$60.47Special
Availability: In Stock
Can be delivered tomorrow, 05/10 to 91302 for $12.73 per tire.
Rear: 255/40ZR17 94W
Serv. Desc: 94W
UTQG: 300 AA A
Qty:Per Tire:

2
$85.67Special/Closeout
Availability: Fewer than 6
Can be delivered tomorrow, 05/10 to 91302 for $12.60 per tire.
Set of 4: $292.28

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Hawaiian Driver 05-09-2018 10:07 AM

I also agree that the Michelins are great. Currently running PS4S myself

tommy583 05-09-2018 10:23 AM

I have Hankook V12 Evo tires. The rears last between 25K to 30K. So about 3 seasons for me. This is my second set. I've been happy with them. You might want to check your alignment if your are wearing way faster then that.

Cunningr 05-09-2018 10:30 AM

Add me to the michelin group, I run them on everything I own. My dad swore buy them and my experience prooves his loyalty.

Ciao 05-09-2018 11:27 AM

I've used Michelin PS4 tires on my Audi, and use Michelin on my SUV. I like Michelins, but depending on type of tire selection (summer tires wear quicker than all season), you can expect summer tires will wear sooner than all season tires. The benefit is that you will have better grip than all season tires.

Fintro11 05-09-2018 01:58 PM

Michelin ps4 / super sports hands down

Anker 05-09-2018 02:48 PM

The "best" tire depends on your expectations. If you are looking for low wear its one tire, and if you are looking for track performance its a completely different tire.

Share what you are looking for. You suggested it was long tire life. Do you care about wet, dry, cold performance?

ekam 05-09-2018 03:23 PM

Cheaper to buy a Corolla than to save on tires in a sports car.

boxfix 05-09-2018 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam (Post 569932)
Cheaper to buy a Corolla than to save on tires in a sports car.

Am I missing something?

What does that mean ekam???

Stroked & Blown 05-09-2018 03:58 PM

Hoosier R7

BYprodriver 05-09-2018 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kk2002s (Post 569908)
+1 on above.
Summer perf. tires you will have to re-calibrate your basis of longevity.
I think in terms of 20-22k miles for the rear for a decent summer perf. tire
They will wear out on the inside first

Mine don't

rexcramer 05-09-2018 06:34 PM

+1 I have Hankook's on both cars. I am very happy with performance and wear so far. Zero track days, fast twisty roads only.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy583 (Post 569915)
I have Hankook V12 Evo tires.


thstone 05-09-2018 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyotaandporsche (Post 569900)
Looking to get new tires, was wondering which tires will last the longest...

You have no idea how much this hurts my soul to post an answer recommending long lasting tires (rather than tires with the best grip), but since that is what you asked...

Pirelli P4 Four Seasons Plus.

Consumer Reports estimates that they might last 100,000 miles. I didn't believe it either, so you'll have to read the report and decide for yourself. I couldn't bring myself to check if they come in Boxster friendly sizes. That is just asking too much.

Consumer Reports - How to Buy Long Lasting Tires

Anker 05-10-2018 03:43 AM

I have done over 100,000 miles on factory installed tires a couple of times, but definitely not on a Boxster.

MarkAP 05-10-2018 03:54 AM

My car had PSS on when I bought it 3years ago. They did not fully wear out but timed out. I liked them so put them on again but I don’t think the new ones feel as grippy as the last set. Not sure I will put them on again when these are done.

Burg Boxster 05-10-2018 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy583 (Post 569915)
... rears last between 25K to 30K...


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

Good one, Tommy, nice idea to give the new guy some hope!

particlewave 05-10-2018 09:00 AM

Which tires haven't been mentioned yet? Put me down for those. :rolleyes:

911monty 05-10-2018 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 570009)
Which tires haven't been mentioned yet? Put me down for those. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=barcsu8A3VE

MWS 05-10-2018 10:52 AM

To qutote someone: "it's not the age, it's the mileage." For me (at least tire wise) age gets me way before miles...well maybe that's also true in other aspects too. Sigh.

Regarding the OP question...asking what the best tire is like inquiring as to the best food. It depends on the desire and expectation. Value for money is a completely different subject.

BIGJake111 05-10-2018 01:21 PM

Best tires
 
Just as an alternative because I think they are a bit cheaper and a step back from the supersports are birdgestone potenza.

I have them oem on my Abarth 124 and they’re pretty good! Less grip
Than the supersports (I think, it’s hard to control for the 205 width vs my boxsters wide 18s). But still pretty good tires.

Cunningr 05-10-2018 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWS (Post 570017)
To qutote someone: "it's not the age, it's the mileage." For me (at least tire wise) age gets me way before miles...well maybe that's also true in other aspects too. Sigh.

Regarding the OP question...asking what the best tire is like inquiring as to the best food. It depends on the desire and expectation. Value for money is a completely different subject.

You got that right!

For me though never cheap out on tires or brakes. Its the only direct contact between you the road and stopping!

I think you need to decide on your goal as mentioned, and decide on whats best one. For me i only drive Fridays and weekends and not in rain. I like grip! Good luck. If you dont like your choice you can always change em they will wear out.

jdraupp 05-10-2018 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burg Boxster (Post 570000)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

Good one, Tommy, nice idea to give the new guy some hope!

Missing a decimal me thinks.

Boxstard 05-10-2018 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWS (Post 570017)
To qutote someone: "it's not the age, it's the mileage." For me (at least tire wise) age gets me way before miles...well maybe that's also true in other aspects too. Sigh.

You need to take your car out of garage and drive it more often!

thom4782 05-10-2018 08:24 PM

Running BRIDGESTONE POTENZA RE760 SPORT. They last fairly long. Perfectly good for running around town and countryside. Bridgestone offers even longer lasting models for Boxsters.

rfuerst911sc 05-11-2018 03:35 AM

It's not so much the brand but more the tread wear rating . Generally speaking sticky performance street tires will have a tread wear rating of 200 - 280 . While a tire designed to last longer will have a rating of 300 and higher , the higher the # the longer it will last ( in theory ) . But as you go higher on wear rating you start to lose grip/performance that is where the trade off takes place . You also have to consider how many miles a year do you drive ? I'd rather wear out a set of tires than have them expire due to build date . I think most " experts " will say tires should be replaced about every 5 years due to age , UV exposure , cracking/checking etc. but I know most people go much longer . Good luck with your tire search .

kk2002s 05-11-2018 03:37 AM

Try using simple math as a guide.
Good long lasting all season passenger tire 60,000 miles
Typical base line for daily driver @ 12000 miles/year = 5 years to reach end of tire by mileage and close to time as well

How many of us are putting 12000 miles a year on their boxster at this point?
I did the first 2 years as my daily but now it is closer to 5-6k
so that = 10 years on a long wearing tire
So a good high perf summer gets around 25k (That is high end) so that = 4-5 years.
So you could take 5 years of expected driving, divide by expected miles/year and that will give you an idea of what type of tire to buy (And if cold/slippery weather is involved)
I run my summers year round but it is dry only driving and with caution and pretty limited

MWS 05-11-2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxstard (Post 570040)
You need to take your car out of garage and drive it more often!

Yes...I know. I haven't even pulled the car cover or tender yet. In my defense, it's only 56F here now.

I should work out an arrangement with my neighbor who has a nice boat, which is still covered. Free use of Boxster for use of boat. Wonder if that would fly?

Geof3 05-11-2018 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy583 (Post 569915)
I have Hankook V12 Evo tires. The rears last between 25K to 30K. So about 3 seasons for me. This is my second set. I've been happy with them. You might want to check your alignment if your are wearing way faster then that.

Not super happy with the Hankooks on the track, though just fine for street. I am going to go with Sumitomo HTR Z 3's here soon. Look like a great bang for the buck tire on the Boxster. Very popular with the car club guys around here.

Dave80GTSi 05-11-2018 12:34 PM

A Bargain Heads-Up
 
See this thread: http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/62941-firestone-firehawk-indy-500-a.html

And then note that there is, once again, a $60.00 rebate deal going on right now, until the first week of July 2018.

I've had these for a year or so now, and highly recommend them.

Thanks - DM

Topless 05-11-2018 02:02 PM

I love the OP sentiments. It is exactly the opposite of my preferences though. Getting new tires is like opening gifts on Christmas morning. They roll so smooth and grip like nobody's business in the corners. Woohoo! I can't wait for my old ones to wear out so I can GO GET NEW ONES!!! :D

Seriously though, I run extreme performance tires and expect them to last about 6K or one year on my car. If you don't care about performance and just want a long lasting tire that doesn't suck, choose an A/S tire with the highest treadwear rating you can find. That is probably 420 in tires that fit our cars. I run a 700 TW on the grocery getter.

The other trick is to spend $100 and get an alignment that emphasizes tire maximum tire life. A very neutral alignment will probably double the tire life on our cars.

Good luck!

Stroked & Blown 05-11-2018 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topless (Post 570109)
A very neutral alignment will probably double the tire life on our cars.

...and halve the fun

Boxstard 05-11-2018 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWS (Post 570091)
Yes...I know. I haven't even pulled the car cover or tender yet. In my defense, it's only 56F here now.

I should work out an arrangement with my neighbor who has a nice boat, which is still covered. Free use of Boxster for use of boat. Wonder if that would fly?

I'm in Michigan and at 56F I'm driving with my top down! Drove through rain today, get a reminder to blow through those drain holes... wet carpet behind the seat.

No, boat won't fly but may float:D

Blackcloud 05-11-2018 05:26 PM

I run Bridgestone RE-11's for autocross but on the off season I use BF Goodrich Comp-2 all season tires. They are relatively cheap and have an aggressive tread pattern. I get my best PAX times in the early spring and fall events. They handle really well. I love them. I would go with RE-71's but they don't make them in a stock 17 inch size. If I went with a 225/17 tire I would be out of the stock class unless I got 18" wheels. They were available in 2004. Good muck.

mikefocke 05-11-2018 05:58 PM

Tire design is a series of tradeoffs and what might be right for one car wouldn't be for another. Likewise for my versus your location. I've bought only Michelins since about 1970 and for both my Boxsters. I also got a wear biased alignment on my Boxster and that gave me twice the wear as before the alignment. To get that you have to have someone do it who knows how to set up a car beyond just getting it into spec. What this end of the spec does as opposed to that end. How this spec interplays with another. Look for someone who sets P-cars up for racing. My last set of Michelins I actually swapped out because of age and not wear.

Xpit77 05-12-2018 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave80GTSi (Post 570101)
See this thread: http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/62941-firestone-firehawk-indy-500-a.html

And then note that there is, once again, a $60.00 rebate deal going on right now, until the first week of July 2018.

I've had these for a year or so now, and highly recommend them.

Thanks - DM

This is my 3rd season on these tires. I don`t track it but I do drive it wink wink.

tonythetiger 05-13-2018 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thom4782 (Post 570049)
Running BRIDGESTONE POTENZA RE760 SPORT. They last fairly long. Perfectly good for running around town and countryside. Bridgestone offers even longer lasting models for Boxsters.

This is a great tire I’ve been running for a year, good wear but trade off on traction. Next set will be a softer compound since I care more about traction, plus some water shedding in case I get caught in rain


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